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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another depressing article from the Guardian

41 replies

jillgreen · 21/01/2024 04:25

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/jan/20/this-is-how-we-do-it-we-dont-play-the-normal-gender-game-and-enjoy-exploring-that

A young straight couple explain their radical, "gender queering" sex life which involves the man putting on tights and "coming really fast" while the woman is "trans masculine" (she cut her hair short) and unable to orgasm because she's on anti-depressants.

What an inspiring story for us all.

This is how we do it: ‘We don’t play the normal gender game, and enjoy exploring that’

Jacob and Kasey like to experiment, and reject the notion that sex has to mean penetration

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/jan/20/this-is-how-we-do-it-we-dont-play-the-normal-gender-game-and-enjoy-exploring-that

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nobodysdaughter · 23/01/2024 12:47

I'm really laughing at the thought of me and DH going on at the guardian about our sex life like that! I mean who CARES? Grin

fedupandstuck · 23/01/2024 12:55

I feel really sorry for both the parties in this couple, given what they've said about their backgrounds and what they were told/taught about sex and intimacy. Especially given what they imagine other heterosexual couples that don't claim a "queer" identity do in bed.

To be scrupulously fair to them, this is from a series of stories called "This is how we do it", so they have been invited to talk about their sex lives, as other people have.

duc748 · 23/01/2024 13:09

Sausagenbacon · 21/01/2024 08:26

That one's much worse, and more depressing.

As used in this context, the phrase “gender identity ideology” is actually nothing to do with gender, as in masculinity and femininity, and how this shapes our identities. Instead, it is used to imply that trans, transgender and gender non-conforming identities are a new fad, and that the longstanding social justice movement for trans rights is really a recent conspiracy of nefarious elites.

As if, eh? 🙄As always with such pieces, I feel like saying, exactly what extra 'trans rights' should be made available, in addition to those already given?

Gender Ideology? Up Yours! - Freedom News

CW: Transphobia I’ve been feeling recently a bit like the popular online discourse around transphobia and trans liberation is living in another world and to the extent that social media is very much still a media world that’s the truth. This was prodde...

https://freedomnews.org.uk/2019/06/16/gender-ideology-up-yours/

SummerFeverVenice · 23/01/2024 13:30

The only depressing thing about the article is the sexually repressed way these two adults were raised by conservative parents. Nothing they described was ‘queer’ unless you’re raised in the only have PIV sex dressed, in the dark, missionary style and only to conceive a baby- no pleasure allowed.

User1775 · 23/01/2024 14:26

Man gets off on his weird fetish whilst woman endures the tedium to maintain the relationship. A tale as old as time. What is new or gender bending about this? The woman ejaculating quickly after performing her fetish whilst he fails to orgasm would be a more interesting a novel situation surely? How very boring.

SammyScrounge · 23/01/2024 14:57

DialSquare · 23/01/2024 11:52

I bet they are snag tights.

😂😄🤣 I'm so glad I m not a young woman
Nowadays. It's so joyless!

@DialSquare

NotGoingToLie · 23/01/2024 16:50

Jacob and Kasey sound like they have far too much time on their hands and take themselves way too seriously. I can picture them both: no doubt each donning Snag tights and blue hair.

Pallisers · 23/01/2024 17:01

Doesn't every generation think they invented sex though? Maybe it is because no one wants to think of their parents grinding or doing oral (although, Jacob and Kasey, they did - they just didn't write about it in the guardian). They sound like an ordinary couple. I feel for her not being able to orgasm - hope they are working on that. Actually that might have been an interesting article "I find it hard to orgasm because I am on anti depressants and this is what we do to try to overcome that"

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 23/01/2024 17:36

Another interesting article : How a strict religious upbringing crippled me in adulthood

nepeta · 23/01/2024 17:37

All I could think of in this context is the old joke about a young couple having first time sex in the back of the car.

After they had finished, he told her "If I had realised you were a virgin I would have taken it more slowly."

She responded: "If I had realised what hurry you were in I would have taken my tights off faster."

similarminimer · 23/01/2024 17:54

How different, how very different, from the home life of our own dear Queen!

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 23/01/2024 17:59

So Jacob is working towards fulfilling his female side , and she is depressed, can’t imagine why….

napody · 23/01/2024 18:35

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 21/01/2024 10:44

Depressing? It was hilarious, they have a completely shit sex life and have managed to reframe it into something they think is aspirational via buzzwords and denial. I do think the Catholic church has a lot to answer for in Jacob's case though which is sad.

Exactly! Brilliant.

DrJump · 24/01/2024 08:38

That is an awful lot of words for we have a shit sex life which mainly revolves around the man cumming. Which is a historically stereotypical male/female sex isn't it?

FrancescaContini · 24/01/2024 08:45

🥱 I’d rather clean the loo although “trans masculine” just cos a woman has short hair 🤣

Villagetoraiseachild · 25/01/2024 10:59

Wasn't going to indulge the Guardian on this one, but the comments here were intriguing.
I suppose the upside is that they seem to communicate and are trying to accommodate each other.
I'm sorry that Kasey has depression and the meds are having such an effect though and hope for her this resolves soon.
Then all may be well.
Or she gets a vibrator.
Or another partner.
Good Luck to them.

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