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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WHO will not be making any recommendations for trans identifying children & adolescents due to lack of evidence

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DerekFaker · 17/01/2024 09:25

Finally some sense:

https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1747406220372173032?t=2atusXZ_QYJzQfZiV-yMrQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1747406220372173032?s=19&t=2atusXZ_QYJzQfZiV-yMrQ

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ArabellaScott · 17/01/2024 16:20

CheeseChamp · 17/01/2024 13:38

Makes me angry, the irresponsibility of just casually waving away the advice on child and youth, oh, there's not enough evidence so we won't include it. Why don't you include it and outright state it is dangerous to use these methods without evidence? Won't you withdraw other statements made on it? Challenge others who advocate for it? Naughty step governments who use such methods without evidence??

To me this is a child and young person health crisis, just like covid was a crisis. And they stood up there lecturing governments about what they should be doing every day whether it was evidence based or not. Imagine if they'd have said oh, we can't advise about that, sorry, no evidence.

Criminal negligence. Someone there is terrified of the TRAs.

That's a very good point. Rather than asking questions and perhaps contributing to better care for 'gender diverse' children, they just drop the whole fucking thing and swerve it.

Froodwithatowel · 17/01/2024 16:30

That. ^^

It's rather reminiscent of the police and the Rothersthorpe issue.

'We could protect children - but difficult people would kick off and call us names, so we'll look the other way.'

DerekFaker · 18/01/2024 07:54

Jesus! Due dilligence and safeguarding seems to go out of the window when it comes to a certain demographic.

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RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 18/01/2024 09:51

The bit about life expectancy is interesting. Is lower life expectancy explained by those who are on cross-sex hormones, or are there other factors at play?

Helleofabore · 18/01/2024 09:58

I think there was a study released recently or just a paper about the impact on bodies with cross sex hormones. On either sex there is significant increase in stroke and heart attack. Obviously there are so many other issues that are often dismissed because there are very few patients with decades of use to investigate.

SaffronSpice · 18/01/2024 10:30

Helleofabore · 18/01/2024 09:58

I think there was a study released recently or just a paper about the impact on bodies with cross sex hormones. On either sex there is significant increase in stroke and heart attack. Obviously there are so many other issues that are often dismissed because there are very few patients with decades of use to investigate.

Suicide is also considerably higher post-‘transition’

Helleofabore · 18/01/2024 11:51

Yes. That is a very inconvenient fact.

nepeta · 18/01/2024 17:05

I strongly believe that they should include experts in women's rights in the development group, given that self-identification and the concept of 'gender-inclusive' have, in reality, meant undesirable consequences for the female sex (erasure of our language, erasure of the existence of female single-sex spaces, forced interpretation of 'woman' as a sexist stereotype rather than as a sex category etc.)

The world is still dealing with this issue as if only men, as sex class, had inalienable rights while the female sex class and its rights (where the latter even exist) are up for mining and reassignment and erasures.

SaffronSpice · 18/01/2024 17:19

Given they are meant to be a health organisation, the people on the group should all be impartial experts on evidence based medicine, and they should be steering well away from legislation and policy.

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