Labour Students attack on Rosie and Tonia has escalated

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Thirty Three Labour student societies are attacking Rosie and Tonia for being pro-women and accusing them and the Labour leadership of "Nazi Revisionism". Read this Labour list article for details and to see the student release. "Revisionism of Nazi atrocities has no place in Labour"

https://labourlist.org/2024/01/rosie-duffield-investigation-allegations-transphobia-antisemitism-university-labour-clubs/

This puts Starmer and the Labour leadership in a bind will they openly support Rosie and Tonia who are basically just saying standard Labour policy? Will they rebuke the societies concerned? How can you go into an election with your student section claiming that the Labour party hierarchy are bigots and are Nazi revisionists?

This could also impact the Welsh leadership election Cardiff, Swansea, Aberystwyth Labour student socs have all signed and they are claiming one of the leading Labour Welsh MPs is a a "transphobe" because she dislikes porn and for saying women's sport is important.

Get the biscuits in folks.

Students can be dual registered and choose which of the two to vote in for national elections.

Students don’t always bother to register or to vote tho and those who do vote are more likely to do it wherever they are at the time, so the timing of the election can be somewhat relevant:

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/who-can-vote/students

according to this, based on 2019 GE, the older the residents of a constituency, the higher the turn out:

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/general-election-2019-turnout/

The students aren’t nearly as important as they believe they are.

Yeah makes sense. My uni son hasn't even got round to registering for a GP yet and makes me send him his repeat prescriptions so I doubt he's going to be bothering to put himself on the electoral register at halls anytime soon. He is on it at our address, because I added him, but would have to do a postal vote I guess if its next May. I really don't think him or his mates will bother voting tbh and I think you're right, deluded teenagers that actually bother to vote are a pretty tiny proportion of the electorate.

I’m not sure we should be dismissing the impact of student societies on the thinking of students more widely as well as the thinking or position espoused by the university. It is relatively easy to influence young people (I see it all the time in my workplace) and the influence of GI is significant and profound.

This is compounded by no longer teaching or emphasising critical thinking or the importance of debate and multiple perspectives or the need for evidence anymore. It’s all about student experience and ‘values’ and good capitalists

À Geist claotrap. Be better

the what debacle??

Gah. Fat fingers.

Ageist claptrap

Hey you could call Mishy a content free wastrel scoldbot (I couldn't possibly comment) but never a claptrap.

‘scoldbot’ 🤣

@MotherEarthisaTerf rumour is the 'skin flute' was played in a local park with someone that was not in their bubble.
A. Constituent quote.

*the Nazi German government brutally targeted the trans community, deporting many trans people to concentration camps and wiping out vibrant community structures.[6]

This area of research is underdeveloped and the number of transgender victims is unknown*

Those two statements contradict each other. And where were these 'vibrant community structures'?

(Apols if anyone has answered, currently reading the thread).

According to the Museum of Jewish Heritage, the Nazi German government brutally targeted the trans community, deporting many trans people to concentration camps and wiping out vibrant community structures.[6] This area of research is underdeveloped and the number of transgender victims is unknown.

Thing is, it isn't unknown. They kept records.

Germany (like every western nation at the time) had a law against cross dressing. It was less strict than most countries (the UK for example). All the prosecutions under it by the Nazis came with other charges (almost always homosexuality).

There is huge amounts of evidence that cross dressing was widely tolerated. An image search will come up with loads of contempary photos of Nazis in dresses- it was more common and more accepted than any allied country.