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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is anyone planing on approaching their child's school regarding the new gender questioning guidelines?

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WheeeeshtNow · 29/12/2023 11:43

My daughters school has many kids socially transitioning and have openly told me that they used male pronouns for my daughter and they/them pronouns for months without discussing it with me. They also used a male name.

There are many other kids they are doing this with.

I got the impression that they did it because they didn't really know how to handle it and wanted to protect kids who's parents wouldn't allow it (eyeroll)

I immediately said I wouldn't allow it and withdrew consent for anyone using any names or pronouns other that her legal name and biological sex pronouns.

Now that these guidelines are in place I feel like I should point them out.

I'm sure they must know of them but I don't know. I feel obligated to as a mother of a child delaying with this.

Is anyone else planning on asking if a school is going to adhere to these guidelines?

OP posts:
WheeeeshtNow · 29/12/2023 13:19

Or should I just trust them to follow the guide lines? Will they be sent to schools etc?

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/12/2023 13:42

Yes OP. Absolutely.
The guidelines are incredibly important for restoring safeguarding and ensuring that transactivists and their thinking are removed from schools.

The 5 key issues will make it very hard for schools to ignore these. What happens in single sex changing rooms in your daughter's school?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/12/2023 14:08

Apologies - the above is the link to the consultation document. This is the link to the guidance:
https://consult.education.gov.uk/equalities-political-impartiality-anti-bullying-team/gender-questioning-children-proposed-guidance/supporting_documents/Gender%20Questioning%20Children%20%20nonstatutory%20guidance.pdf

And these are the 5 main points:

  1. Schools and colleges have statutory duties to safeguard and promote the welfare of all children.
  2. Schools and colleges should be respectful and tolerant places where bullying is never tolerated.
  3. Parents should not be excluded from decisions taken by a school or college relating to requests for a child to ‘socially transition’.
  4. Schools and colleges have specific legal duties that are framed by a child’s biological sex.
  5. There is no general duty to allow a child to ‘social transition’.

https://consult.education.gov.uk/equalities-political-impartiality-anti-bullying-team/gender-questioning-children-proposed-guidance/supporting_documents/Gender%20Questioning%20Children%20%20nonstatutory%20guidance.pdf

WarriorN · 30/12/2023 11:25

WheeeeshtNow · 29/12/2023 13:19

Or should I just trust them to follow the guide lines? Will they be sent to schools etc?

Be aware that at the moment they're draft and will be non statutory, though a school will have to give reasons why they're not following them when they're finalised.

If they don't they could be legally challenged by a parent because the guidelines effectively outline and emphasise current school and legal responsibilities.

So it could be useful to be asking them so they're aware you know about the guidelines and so they can provide you with relevant policies which you can scrutinise now, and potentially challenge them on.

WarriorN · 30/12/2023 11:26

Obviously they may well be planning to update their policies - but should be making that clear to you.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 30/12/2023 16:37

This is going to be a challenge for some schools. Those who have leapt into transactivism without considering social contagion and the long term negative impacts on children, let alone their collusion with queer theory activist groups (in defiance of their legal duty to be politically impartial).
They'll need to quietly reverse much of this and it will be challenging - especially those with numerous kids caught up in the social contagion. Then there are the rabble rousers / useful idiots in the unions prioritising Stonewall et al rather than children.

StrongerThanYouTh1nk · 30/12/2023 19:29

@WheeeeshtNow Of course you should point it out and request a response in writing too, about their current policy for gender questioning students. Feel free to DM me if it helps, I am in talks with our school over this for some time now.

WarriorN · 31/12/2023 09:34

The other issue they need to grapple with, and the gov need to do too, is that the current RSE guidelines/ curriculum use phrases that are completely against the new trans guidelines, and also the new guidance for public bodies.

Gender identity is not be to referred to and has been clarified as not covered by the EA. It's in the RSE curriculum several times, and also uses gender instead of sex. This will have informed their curriculum and the lessons that they teach, especially if they've bought into a scheme from outside.

Keeping children safe in education is the legal safeguarding document, the new draft trans guidelines refer to it for the usual safeguarding procedures.

However it does not include the fact that a sudden trans identity can be a flag for other issues, which could be major safeguarding concerns. Indeed it states the below:

Is anyone planing on approaching their child's school regarding the new gender questioning guidelines?
WarriorN · 31/12/2023 09:37

I would be emphasising the updated language used a lot too.

In all correspondence use the term "gender questioning children" and not trans.

As KCSIE has clumsily lumped "LGBT" children all together, it's unintentionally stated that there is such a thing as trans children. (Children being under 16)

WarriorN · 31/12/2023 09:41

However it does not include the fact that a sudden trans identity can be a flag for other issues, which could be major safeguarding concerns.

This may not change for some time as needs to be evidenced. Potentially Cass will impact this; I'm not sure.

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