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Datun · 17/01/2024 08:38

Helleofabore · 17/01/2024 08:09

However, it does show that by now even the WHO has to admit that they did not do due diligence on there guidance and have allowed a group to have significant influence on their policy. And that they have indulged in allowing an ideologically driven group to shape the world's health policies.

Where does Cass go after this?

Which should be enough to order a complete overhaul of the organisation. Who can trust them?

Helleofabore · 17/01/2024 08:44

I agree.

If the WHO has had to backtrack, will the lobby groups start to try to pivot? I doubt it, they have sunk too much into this. But then they will start to look rather negligent if they don't respond.

AraJingleBellScott · 17/01/2024 08:58

So the WHO are not so completely captured that they refuse to listen to criticism. Good to know.

BonfireLady · 17/01/2024 14:15

rogdmum · 17/01/2024 07:55

The WHO have also produced a FAQ which includes a statement that the evidence base for an affirmative approach for children and adolescents is “limited and variable” (ie why they are not including children and adolescents in their scope)

https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/hq-hiv-hepatitis-and-stis-library/tgd_faq_16012024.pdf?sfvrsn=79eaf57f_1

This is a significant step forward. Thank you for sharing.

I hope the CQC have read it, given they have just approved Gender GP giving cross-sex hormones to 16 year olds. There is a separate thread on this.

There is far more to do to recognise (in this field of care) that important pubertal brain development, particularly the ability to weigh up risk more effectively, still takes place up to the age of 25. But this is an important step in the right direction. It's frustrating that this known cognitive limitation is being applied to criminal sex offence cases, with more leniency given to rapists under 25 for example, yet it's still not being applied in the case of young people and their consent to medical interventions for which there is a lack of empirical evidence.

BonfireLady · 17/01/2024 17:50

Also... I wonder if this is a change from their stated position a month ago? I'm optimistically hoping that "of note" and "new" indicate a shift.

Obviously hormone intervention is still an issue, particularly for females as the irreversible changes have more of an impact than for males. However, surgery being out of scope for "care" would be a positive.

WHO publishes 'controversial gender guidance'
NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/01/2024 17:59
bai do not want GIF by Anki

Do I detect backpedaling?

IcakethereforeIam · 17/01/2024 18:32

I'm beginning to wonder if this bit of the WHO was doing its own thing and the overarching organisation wasn't really paying attention to them. After all what they were doing only affects every single person on the planet a tiny number.

I'm probably making excuses for them that they don't deserve.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/01/2024 21:27

It's amazing what a bit of investigative journalism can uncover. Now that #nodebate is finally dead, they're finding some rich pickings from the adults intent on transitioning children. Suspect this may be the tip of a very murky iceberg.

AraJingleBellScott · 17/01/2024 21:33

Comprehensive article from the DM.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/01/2024 23:13

I note they also did a piece on Ashley yesterday (although seem to have missed an editor's note when publishing).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12969191/Win-DM-com-World-Health-Organization-quietly-removes-transgender-extremist-panel-gender-dysphoria-story.html

WHO publishes 'controversial gender guidance'
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