To my trans child..

[Moomoominla]

Just to say hi to everyone who was so helpful before.thinking of you all and missing the thread actually! hoping everyone is getting somewhere positive.
Happy Christmas.

I have namechanged, but I also have a trans child. They are 22 and dialling back a bit now. Time passes 💕

Lol! I'm in a US time zone but I was forced up at 7 am Christmas morning by my youngest!

Moo. I'm so sorry about the no contact. Just had a talk w/ my DD19 about the concept of cutting people out. It seems more widespread than I remember and DD said her generation does it to each other as much as to their parents. Let's hope this will fade as they all mature.

💜💐

I have followed your threads. Sending love and strength xx

Thank you! delphinium thank you, it does seem to be encouraged now, it’s all over the good ol internet.
I guess there’s nothing we can do . I have to believe she’s not going to hate us forever, but she does seem to have swallowed the kool aid.
anyway, it’s sunny! It’s a new day and a new year!
Happy New Year to everyone 💐💐

@Moomoominla I went through a really, really difficult time with my daughter some years ago (not trans related, it was grooming/ SA related) and my daughter eventually came out the other end - she eventually realised that what had happened was not right, even though it didn't feel wrong at the time.

It may be a bit cheesy, but I'm often reminded of the old The Byrds song

To everything, There is a season. And a time to every purpose under heaven
A time to build up, a time to break down, A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, A time to gather stones together

A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time you may embrace
A time to refrain from embracing

A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time for love, a time for hate
A time for peace, I swear it's not too late

It's the worst feeling in the world to see your child go down the wrong path, but do what you're doing, carry on loving your daughter and things will turn out as they should in the end, even if it looks hopeless now.
Something - - or someone - along the way will make the difference and set a change in motion and you will get your daughter back. This is part of your daughter's learning about life and there's nothing you can really do while she's learning - just be there, because that's what's important - and she IS going to need you to be there.

And a Happy New Year to you too 💐💐

Thank you ilovemyspace I’m so glad you both came through that horrible time. Of course that song made me cry as a kid, ( along with puff the magic dragon) and it’s just done it again! Thanks for the lyrics. I’m sure you’re right, I hope you’re right, I’m really missing her today. And of course everyone, college, mates youth counselor, are affirming. I don’t understand, still, why the need to create a story that we hate her and partner, gaslight her, and so on. Agh, so muddled.

@Moomoominla oh yes, Puff the Magic Dragon - I still love that song!

Don't try and understand what's happening, because you can't.
It's something that your daughter's going through - she's got caught up in a 'something' that makes sense to her just now (but won't in time to come).

I always think it's so hard for parents, because we naturally want to keep our children from harm ........... it so hurts to just stand by and not be able to do anything ........ but sometimes that's all we can do.
And now, it's all you can do. So don't torture yourself thinking about 'if I do this' or 'if I do that'.

Just be the mum she's always known xx

Thank you, for taking the time to post, very wise words, and very much appreciated.
you’re right, and say what many posters have said before, just hard to hold on to!I’m re trying not to question my parenting or try to make sense of it all, but will focus on getting me sorted, and looking after the rest of us .

I like that you know the magic dragon song!
happy Jan 3 - already!

It's honestly not your parenting! - no matter how much you try and blame yourself.
It's called Life - and sometimes it's just shit!

Hate the fact that your daughter is apart from you, hate the fact that you can't do anything to change it all, hate the impotence you feel!
But this is all beyond your control and you are not the problem, or part of the problem, believe me!

(.... and the Magic Dragon would definitely agree!! 😊) ( I now have this song singing away in my brain 🙄)

Hi Moo
I’m sorry to hear things have got to the NC point. I can only imagine how painful that must be. I agree with PP though this is not your fault. This is part of the wider ‘trans’ playbook where anyone who is anything less than 100% in agreement 100% of the time must be removed from their lives. It really is so very cult like.

I am glad though that your DH is getting counselling and things are improving between you and I hope your DS is doing well despite all this.

Hello Moo,

I lurked on your last thread. I am sorry for all the sadness and stress you are going through.

It's not you. It's not your parenting. Simply, your being, as a mother, is a threat to the trans ideological movement and therefore these messages are given to the young people caught up in it.

Most women give up a great deal for their children, physically, emotionally and psychologically, from the moment they are conceived. Our lives are formed around them. We live to keep them safe.

Trans ideology tells young people that this is the person who is the danger, who is wrong, who hates them, and who needs to be avoided/separated from them.

That is a touchstone for me - any movement that seeks to separate a child from its mother, or children from their parents, raises existential questions as to its foundation and aims.

Thanks everyone. It’s such a massive unnecessary understanding !
💐to everyone going through the same .

Just to let you guys know, I re read your wise words when I need a pick me up!
love to all x

Hello Moo - good to hear from you. Have you ever read PITTstack? They publish roughly 5-6 parent written essays, poems, or articles a week. All from parents dealing with a child caught up in gender ideology.

How are you doing? Have you heard from your daughter? I hope she is ok and I hope your family is ok. A dear friend of mine has a son who has been on hormones for several years now and is unemployed and dropped from school. Each year she would throw a big New Year's party for many friends. This year she didn't have it in her and admitted she couldn't deal with friends experiencing her son's bizarre behavior and clothing choices (he dresses like he is auditioning for Ru Paul's second string but he's now obese due to the hormones). She's even been affirming to an extent. She agrees to name changes and pronouns (always changing) and tries to appear supportive, but obviously she's struggling. I'm so angry on her behalf. She's always been such a good mother. You are a good mother too, Moo, and it's this crazy belief system that has tricked young people.

@Moomoominla I am glad to hear that you are still hanging in there. I was on your thread but have name changed since then

BTW @ilovemyspace the lyrics are a direct Bible quote
Ecclesiastes Chapter 3, verses 1-8.

1.There is an appointed time for everything, and a time for every affair under the heavens.

1. A time to give birth, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to uproot the plant.

3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to tear down, and a time to build. 4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance. 5 A time to scatter stones, and a time to gather them; a time to embrace, and a time to be far from embraces. 6 A time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away. 7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to be silent, and a time to speak. 8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

Hi Moo, thank you for posting. I think of you and your family often.

I especially think about what you & other families are going through when I read posters writing things like ‘why does it matter to you, why not just let people live their lives?’ Often followed by a smiley face, or kisses, or other indications of a general love for the world……

@Blindingsunlight BTW @ilovemyspacethe lyrics are a direct Bible quote
Ecclesiastes Chapter 3, verses 1-8.
So I believe, and I've always thought it a fab musical interpretation of some very wise words! 😊

Thanks delphinium hugs to your friend and her son. You can be as affirming as you like and still, it seems get something wrong - as written about so heartrendingly many times on PITT sub stack. Had to stop reading !
blinding and ilovemy light thanks for the words, I didn’t realize. They are surprisingly very calming and reassuring to read, especially when you imagine how long they have been around and how many people have been reassured by them.
hag thanks for posting, I often think of you all too.
It’s true, people do say stuff like that, I have friends that do, with bells on - until, as one of them recently discovered, it wasn’t enough.
massive hugs to everyone and thank you for taking time to post. Especially the cool lyrics ear worms!

Hope things are okay with your, Moo.

thanks arabella keep up the good work, on this board, you’re a paragon 👍