Podcast: Meghan Murphy Interviews Robert Wintermute - "Are Trans Rights Really Human Rights?"

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I was listening to this recently and thought I’d share it to FWR in case it would be of interest.

Wintermute signed up to the original Yogyakarta Principles (on Gender Identity) but has since changed his mind and decided to oppose self-ID and to publish/speak about the effects of trans activism on women’s (and gay) rights.

This is an interesting discussion and story of how this legal academic came to develop his thinking and change his views.

https://overcast.fm/+BFeJaDnCkA

Thanks for sharing I'm halfway through but am going to bed now.
It's such a familiar story you hear from old school gay people who supported LGBT from the beginning.

LGB people simply wanted to go through life without getting arrested for being gay, (or killed) and the right to get married and adopt children. Like het people.

The T was tacked on somewhere along the timeline in getting LGB rights established. (LGBT was first coined in America).
Once core LGB rights (marriage etc) were established what were LGB charities like Stonewall left to do?

They ditched the LGB because "job done" then blindly followed TRA demands, basically chucking women and lesbians under the bus. We're seeing how that all panned out in real time now. Talk about patriarchy on steroids. Gay men like Owen Jones have a lot to answer for. They've helped this movement steam ahead.

I agree.

Weirdly, I feel it’s to Wintermute’s credit that he has admitted that women and their rights didn’t feature at all in his thinking when he attended and signed Yogyakarta. Just goes to show the areas of discussion there must have been at that event if no-one was prompted to think "Just a mo…will this negatively affect women in any way?"🙄🤬

I'll listen to that in a sec.

But yep, the impact on women is just... Not there in the thinking of so many decision makers. It's the misogyny of inattentiveness and selfishness