Non affirming therapist, Manchester?

[Ilovehersomuch]

I want my daughter to take through her issues with a therapist that is impartial and will NOT affirm gender dysphoria etc

Who also deals with historical CSA too?

Any recommendations?

Have you had a look at Genspect?

https://genspect.org/support/support-for-parents-and-relatives/

Try GETA although the website seems to have changed?

https://www.therapyfirst.org/about/

I have had to look for a therapist for a young person for other issues and noticed that the language in their bios seems now quite nuanced ie they might mention that was an aspect they had experience in but some said explicitly that they took an affirming approach so my sense was that the nuance was a way of drawing attention to fact they took an exploratory approach without drawing fire from colleagues or outside that could lead to accusations of ‘conversion’ from the activists. I’d say a larger practice or group would be better than a sole private therapist

They seem to be Most USA based and the few UK ones don't delay with children, only adults :(

@Ilovehersomuch PM me

Try https://thoughtfultherapists.org/about-us/
There are some good people around despite the bullying. You may have to travel ridiculous distances, but it can work to meet face-to-face once a month and do the other weeks on zoom.

I've look through these but non of them say nonaffirming. I'm wary of the ones that say specialist in LGBTQ because I feel they will tell her she IS trans rather than dealing with all her issues.

Sorry. I was looking at a different link. I've messaged them to see if they can help.

They were set up by James Esses for this reason. I'm retired and no doubt out of date, but he was excluded for saying the obvious, and this is his group. I don't know how extensive it is. https://substack.com/@jamesesses

This website is cheering too.
https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/meet-the-thoughtful-therapists
We got rid of ECT and leucotomies, we thought had got rid of FGM to stop women masturbating or being lesbians. I may not live to see it but this too shall pass.
But the price of democracy is eternal vigilance.

Try www.beyondtrans.org all the therapists there have signed an agreement to offer a non medicalised approach and that the medicalised approach offered by wpath is unacceptable

I've contacted them. Thankyou.

Any therapist who thinks that gender identity is a religion, and that trans idenitities are not valid is a conversion therapist. "Is this person trans?" and "Is trans real?" are not the same thing.

This organisation presents very strong evidence that being transgender has a genetic component as evidence that it doesn't. At the very least, they are scientifically illiterate.

https://genspect.org/our-position/

I'm absolutely not interested as it has nothing to do with my daughter, who is not trans. I don't give a flying monkeys what other people choose to believe as long as they don't drag vunerable kids into it and stay the fk out of women's spaces.

Does your child have gender dysphoria? Do they say they are transgender?

No.

She has never said she feels like a boy. She's never said she feels like she is in the wrong body. She has never ever said the words, I am trans or I am a boy. She's never said she's felt like this since being small.

All she says is that she hates her body and she thinks she's disgusting and it would be easier to be a boy. And that she feels more comfortable in boys clothes.

Sounds nothing like dysphoria to me and everything like a ND teenager struggling to accept her changing body during puberty.

In fact she sounds EXACTLY like me at her age. Also a ND female who only wore boys clothes. Hated her developing body, was attracted to females and hid away under male clothes and short hair to avoid unwanted male attention.

So I feel like I understand what she's going through.

Except she has to deal with a society telling her she might be in the wrong body for feeling like that! Thankfully I wasn't. Or I might have been sucked into the trans ideology too. I just accepted I was a Tom boy and started to accept my femininity once I reached my late teens.

Which I hope she will do too.

@Ilovehersomuch thank you for sharing this. You sound like a loving mother who wants the best for her daughter. Being gender non-conforming is absolutely not the same as being transgender. I'd recommend seeking out a therapist who has a post graduate qualification with one of the following bodies, regardless of where you find their details.

• UK Council for Psychotherapy
• British Psychoanalytic Council
• British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy
• Association of Child Psychotherapists (APC)

@Ilovehersomuch this thread was posted on another recently, just wondering how you got on and whether you would recommend your current therapist (I'm also in Manchester).

Also bloody well done on your response to DadJoke 👍

@Ilovehersomuch did you find a therapist you would recommend?