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We should not submit to cancel culture - Gloria Steinem - BBC interview

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IwantToRetire · 02/12/2023 01:25

There was a very short interview with Gloria Steinem on BBC newsnight which you can listen to at about 27 mins into the 30 mins programme BBC iPlayer - Newsnight - Israel/Hamas: War Returns

I wasn't sure how anyone who isnt awave of her and the ongoing abortion issue in the US would have made of the interview. There is a longer article online https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-67445694

Just thought I would post as it shows the rather clumsy way the BBC discusses / portrays feminism.

Including the fact that for many activists Gloria Steinem was never an "icon", but rather one of the women the media decides should be allowed to talk about women's issues, rather than finding out which woman women would choose.

This is not to slight her, but more a comment on lazy journalism, and the now 60 years of them making no effort whatsoever to find out the range and depths of political activism by women on a whole number of issues.

Gloria Steinem

Feminist icon Gloria Steinem on 'lethal' desire to control wombs

Bodily autonomy should be top of the women’s rights agenda, says 89-year-old activist.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-67445694

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Delphinium20 · 02/12/2023 02:15

If I put only rose-colored aviators, I would hear her call against cancel culture as a precursor to her planning a public peaking.

She'd right about this: it is not women's responsibility to "make [men] their revolution and their dinner".

Villagetoraiseachild · 02/12/2023 03:38

It's good to see an older woman having this much visibility. I caught a few minutes of this. Has she got a book coming out? (Not being cynical, it's just that's often why people pop up.)

WarriorN · 02/12/2023 06:29

She was one of their bbc 99 women this year.

But I'm confused- I could be wrong but I thought she either sat on the fence about all this or was twaw?

WarriorN · 02/12/2023 06:34

And is talking a lot* about cancel culture and free speech in that, isn't she.

Maybe a jk fan...?

PermanentTemporary · 02/12/2023 06:41

The strong message in that BBC article is for individuals to be able to have rights over their own bodies. In the US that argument means abortion rights are linked with transition surgeries and also your sex being a private matter only. So I doubt very much Steinem would actually court cancellation in that way. The 'we happen to have wombs' phrasing is very much implying sex only exists as a list of separate organs that can be swapped in and out. So I don't see anything that goes against the grain there.

RhannionKPSS · 02/12/2023 12:27

Gloria has drunk the woo woo juice so I certainly wouldn’t take anything she says seriously anymore.

IwantToRetire · 02/12/2023 18:57

I think she was always part of the US liberal grouping, and on one level, apart from 2 issues abortion and the ERA (which I think still isnt passed) she was given a platform that other women equallly deserved at the time because she was part of the media.

Dont think she was ever a women's liberationist, and yes she is part of the its the progressive think to do to support self identity as valid. https://glaad.org/over-465-feminist-leaders-sign-open-letter-support-transgender-women-and-girls/

I was more puzzled at the extracts that they showed on newsnight because I think many viewers would have wondered what she talking about, although maybe they made sense as part of the longer interview for BBC's 100 Women. Although interesting that she suggests that in fact it is female biology that defines what a woman is and is the basis on which the male sex class discriminate against women. And then to go on to talk about cancel culture, which in the UK is used as a short hand by some to mean "woke", so she unintentionally was signally she believes women are biological females and the woke tras are a threat!

Over 465 feminist leaders sign open letter standing in solidarity with transgender women and girls, including Gloria Steinem, Regina King, Halle Berry, Selena Gomez, Chelsea Clinton, Gabrielle Union, and more | GLAAD

Today, GLAAD released an open letter signed by over 465 feminist leaders in advocacy, business, entertainment, media, politics, and social justice standing in solidarity with transgender women and girls in honor of Women’s History Month and Transgender...

https://glaad.org/over-465-feminist-leaders-sign-open-letter-support-transgender-women-and-girls

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GrumpyPanda · 02/12/2023 20:17

WarriorN · 02/12/2023 06:29

She was one of their bbc 99 women this year.

But I'm confused- I could be wrong but I thought she either sat on the fence about all this or was twaw?

Ok I'll bite. Who was the dude this time? Actually just scrolled through the whole thing but failed to spot them.

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