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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Andrew Rosendill, White Ribbon and the MET

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User1775 · 30/11/2023 10:57

https://twitter.com/fenwench/status/1729964355943387194?s=48

This man is on bail for rape. Why is a women's charity allowing this? Why are the MET posing with a rape suspect? WTF is the matter with them?

https://twitter.com/fenwench/status/1729964355943387194?s=48

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/11/2023 11:18

White Ribbon have apparently gone down the genderist route, also. These things are not necessarily connected, but a general disregard for women and girls seems to be a feature in the charity sector.

Igmum · 30/11/2023 11:38

WTF? What are they thinking?

donquixotedelamancha · 30/11/2023 11:42

I wonder whether White Ribbon actually know? There has been shockingly little reporting of his (alledged) crimes. On first pass I though there must be an injunction against reporting or something but it seems that, no, another Tory MP committing sexual assaults just doesn't generate much interest.

I agree, OP, it's ridiculous for the Police to do photo ops with him while he's under investigation by the same force.

It's also nuts that he's standing for re-election but hasn't attended parliament for a year (presumaly because of the whole 'being a rapist' thing).

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-mp-andrew-rosindell-has-not-attended-parliament-for-more-than-a-year-since-arrest-3xf7vkn3j

Lottapianos · 30/11/2023 11:42

My god, that's utterly disgraceful. Action against violence against women is clearly just box-ticking crap to the Met

Fenlandia · 30/11/2023 11:45

I'm struggling to find evidence that Walk It Out are a charity. Their twitter bio links to various social media profiles but I haven't yet found a charity number or an official website.

I'm NOT suggesting they're dodgy but my instinct was to assume they are a charity. But posing for photos with someone who is on bail on a charge of a serious violent crime is unacceptable and they should be more careful in their due diligence.

MarieDeGournay · 30/11/2023 11:50

I used to admire the White Ribbon movement, from what I knew about it - men stepping up to challenge sexism instead of leaving it all to us seemed like a great idea. That said, it never had widespread support, did it? I don't remember any high profile actions by them in response to serious anti women crimes.

Does anybody know anything about the Toronto Men's Group who were around in the 80s I think? All I know about them is that they developed a number of strategies for men to be less of a threat to women, eg if a man finds himself walking behind a woman at night, to cross the road so she won't feel she's being followed. The only other thing I know about them is their excellent motto:
'To women, their rights and no less. To men, our rights and no more.'
If only..

User1775 · 30/11/2023 12:05

White Ribbon are based in Hebden Bridge Town Hall which has had a LOT of complains about their mural, pride, women only spaces and other gender related issues: https://www.hebdenbridge.co.uk/forum/index.html
It is a shame that what once proudly announced itself as the lesbian capital of the UK has gone down this road

Hebden Bridge Web: Discussion Forum

Hebden Bridge Discussion Forum on the Hebden Bridge Web. Issues of importance to the community of Hebden Bridge.

https://www.hebdenbridge.co.uk/forum/index.html

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Coffeelovr · 30/11/2023 14:30

From the White Ribbon website:
"It has been bought to our attention that a public figure who is currently on police bail for sexual offences wore a White Ribbon and attended a White Ribbon stand this week. This is completely unacceptable. Someone in this position who appropriates a campaign to end violence against women and girls diminishes the voices and experiences of victims and survivors. This person has no connection and has never had a connection with White Ribbon UK."

TinselAngel · 30/11/2023 14:33

White Ribbon include men in their definition of "woman".

Coffeelovr · 30/11/2023 14:46

TinselAngel · 30/11/2023 14:33

White Ribbon include men in their definition of "woman".

Can you share a link for that please

RethinkingLife · 30/11/2023 14:54

Coffeelovr · 30/11/2023 14:46

Can you share a link for that please

Our Champions are women, and people who do not identify as being a man, who encourage and challenge men to get involved by finding opportunities to inspire and inform; through presentations, conversations and social media. Most importantly our Champions can hold us to account and ensure that women’s voices are heard in our work.

https://www.whiteribbon.org.uk/ambassadors-champions

Open up the + by "What is the difference between white ribbon ambassadors and champions?"

Ambassadors and Champions — White Ribbon UK

Our Ambassadors and Champions are vital to our work. They help us spread the White Ribbon message across the UK by embodying our values in their daily lives, fundraising, raising awareness about our mission, and recruiting others to make the White Ribb...

https://www.whiteribbon.org.uk/ambassadors-champions

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