Veteran police inspector unmasked as a vile online troll who targeted women campaigning for justice for Sarah Everard has been sacked

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12788221/vile-troll-unmasked-police-inspector-targeted-women-campaigning-sarah-everard-sacked.html

It's almost like some police officers have a god complex, and think they are the law rather than enforcing the law.

On a totally unrelated topic, anyone seen Felix recently?

Even more shocking is how long he was allowed to go on for, he was posting for years.
I read the article, it seems that they only bothered to do something because of an initiative.
i wonder how many more there are.
maybe Felix will plop on and tell us it never happens, or maybe not.

And in a linked article on the DM site, they report that Police Scotland have stopped reporting sexual abuse / assault complaints separately and started lumping them in with general complaints.

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence, and nothing at all to do with the previous spike in complaints against officers (of sexual crimes).

And that’s a service headed by a woman! (Mind you, so was the Met whilst it ignored men like Couzens).

What struck me about this is that he is only 48. Any hopes that the vile misogyny endemic in the police force might be dying out as all the old dinosaurs retire are just horrible naive. This specimen was in a senior role and will be positively encouraging a younger generation of officers to ensure that the police force continues to be an inherently sexist (and racist and homophonic) institution.

Appalling. He carried out some of his abuse while at work. I thought that sounded a familiar pattern that we've seen on here.

Good grief.

And they thought they had problems with racism.

Sex Matters and other grass roots womens groups need large amounts of government funding to get in there and start doing (actual) DEI training. Stat.

It's all right though. They won't bring any naff flags.

'He targeted numerous women whose views he disliked to brand them 'bats* crazy', 'mentalists', 'attention seeking', 'narcissists' or 'mentally unwell'.'

My personal faith and trust in the police is on a tally of -10 right now

OMG and WTF? While on shift as well.

Ummm yes, Felix has been MIA for a while...

Sex Matters and other grass roots women's groups need large amounts of government funding to get in there and start doing (actual) DEI training.

Well, I laughed, obviously. But has any women's group ever been funded to provide DEI training, as SW has so many cases? It'd hardly be unreasonable.

I'm pretty sure diversity training doesn't actually work. People with deeply held prejudices don't just stop thinking this stuff because they went on a training course. It's a nice thought but in reality it doesn't do much.

There needs to a more robust screening process, but mostly the police as an organisation need to stop protecting their own and ignoring red flags when they come up. Time and time again when these stories finally get told, we hear about so many missed opportunities or warning signs ignored.

They need rebuilding from the ground up but I can't see how that's possible affordable or practical when you also need them to continue what they are doing right.

It is a horribly depressing bind to be in.

Is there an equivalent of failing schools' "special measures" they can be put into?

I agree, it was grim joking more than anything. The police need rebuilding from the ground up, this is foundational and if anything worse than their issues with racism - racism is at least mostly considered unacceptable where it's very fashionable and acceptable to be openly and even loudly prejudiced against people if they're women. Especially the least popular groups of them.

But the rainbow flag gang have managed to spread false law far and wide. I'd like the people exposed to all that to be exposed to the other side of the information too.

His accusations are admissions.

I'm pretty sure diversity training doesn't actually work. People with deeply held prejudices don't just stop thinking this stuff because they went on a training course.

Theres a growing body of evidence to support this - what’s worse is that some types of training (in particular unconscious bias training) works contrary to its purpose by suggesting that biased behaviour cannot be helped if it is indeed unconscious.

whilst there is some evidence to show that training can help, by and large DEI training has extremely poor ROI.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2021/03/24/is-unconscious-bias-training-still-worthwhile/

https://hbr.org/2019/07/does-diversity-training-work-the-way-its-supposed-to

https://www.tidalequality.com/blog/dont-do-unconscious-bias-training

if the police really wanted to sort out its disgraceful sexist culture it could through a large scale programme involving top-down commitment filtered through every layer of management that makes sexist language and behaviour as reprehensible as racist behaviour and encourages everyone to speak up and call it out when they see it. But they don’t want to do that as they know it will be unpopular and will result in a backlash plus I suspect that many people at the top see sexism as just part and parcel of a male-dominated workforce and think women should shrug it off. The fire service and the army are just as bad….

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-armed-forces-rape-sexual-assault-convictions-b1804868.html

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/25/report-finds-misogyny-racism-and-bullying-at-london-fire-brigade

Training seems to have an effect if Stonewall, Mermaids or Gendered Intelligence carry it out 🙃 Although, I think that’s largely because their new religion is sexist and reinforces sexist stereotypes so there’s no change in police thinking needed 😏 In fact, for some officers they have a whole new list of things to hector women about.

They call it “special measures” with the police too: I only know because I read an article the other day headlined West Midlands Police: Force in special measures over sex offender failings.

I agree, it's actually giving many of them a new way to enact their hatred of women safely under the rainbow umbrella.
And you're right that Stonewall et. al. have been very effective in infiltrating organisations. I don't know why that is, maybe because like you said it's an easy bandwagon to jump on and doesn't require men to make any actual sacrifices or change their thinking. Also, many of the people pushing this stuff in workplaces seems to be women (depressingly) from what I have seen.

As for how to fix the police, i don't know. I think a profession like that will always attract a certain number of unsavoury individuals who want to yield power and control, which is why safeguarding and protocols need to be strictly enforced. But who is going to police the police?

Here in Ireland we have a Police Commissioner who was brought in after a litany of scandals in recent years (including whistleblowers being harassed and threatened) to try and improve things. Unfortunately for him, he has had no real support from the troops in making any changes. In a few years he will leave having achieved very little and they will say he was ineffective, but he got no help because the rank and file didn't want to change anything. So how do things actually get fixed?