Parents risk arrest for not affirming

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I've not seen a recent thread, though I think it's come up before.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/18/parents-of-trans-warn-cps-that-they-face-spurious-allegatio/

https://archive.ph/6XWcf archive link

And this is the situation now, before Scotland starts enforcing its Hate Crime bill and before Labour gets in and whatever fuckwittery they come up with.

Very pleased to see Bayswater getting the publicity on this.
How have we got to a place where the Crown Prosecution Service puts out dangerous stuff like this and nobody senior or in government has the courage to say no?

We know on here that the CPS has form for having a baked in anti woman bias but to see its anti child safeguarding bias being displayed like this is depressing - especially after the disaster of their sinister "school guidelines" that they pulled in the face of legal scrutiny. They seem to have some very dangerous yet powerful employees.

Parents could even have a police visit for “sharing pre-transition” images of their son or daughter, a move tantamount to “deadnaming” them, a reference to identifying someone by their biological sex rather than the one they have transitioned to

I've occasionally wondered about photographs and if one family member would have the right to have all of them erased.

Why not wipe our memories while we're carrying out that ideological cleansing?

The word 'affirming' in this sense actually means 'complying'. Or 'submitting'.

I’ve got a load of barely formulated thoughts re: a generation of children who had their photos posted online before anyone thought to object and how that might contribute to a psychological urge to reinvent oneself as a teen (bonus points if your new persona is entitled to demand the erasure of all traces of the childhood self).

I’m Gen X so my childhood photos lived in albums and boxes and no one saw them unless I took invited them home to meet my mum who was always primed and ready to show them off 😬

In my teen goth years I was the photographer so while my old photos have become prized artefacts to the now-middle aged subjects (who happily post digital scans online) at the time of taking they were private, in-group documents.

Bit of a tangent there, sorry!

Good article, highlights yet another area where parents are rendered powerless re: adequately protecting their children.
I’m trying to think of previous situations where the various arms of a state practised similar over reach in terms of dividing children from capable and loving parents and I can only come up with horrors such as the Magdalene Laundries or the indigenous children of various nations forced into boarding schools and/or adopted into white families.

Seems we realised that forced separation and warehousing kids in approved schools and group homes was best avoided and then we only had a few decades where the authorities would (eg) return runaways to their families and social services would only step in where needed.

Now we’re in some awful hell hole where ‘misgendering’ is abuse and parents who don’t affirm trans ideas are abusers but children who are known to be in actual physical danger from parents/parents partners etc aren’t removed early enough.

I don’t envy social workers, how the fuck are they supposed to know if they are coming or going if the CPS is recategorising abuse to encompass normal parenting at a time when social services are short staffed enough to not be able to protect the kids that really are in need of state protection?

Throw in a few trans activist social workers and the EDI vampire is given carte blanche to eat child protection services from the inside out.

"Throw in a few trans activist social workers and the EDI vampire is given carte blanche to eat child protection services from the inside out"

The EDI vampire - what a brilliant analogy. But apply to safeguarding children and it's so sinister.

From the article:

The Bayswater Support Group has also revealed that one parent has been arrested and others received police visits as officers struggle to balance parental rights with the demands of the transgender lobby.

Can you imagine the police "struggling" to balance parental rights with the demands of any other lobby group?

Indeed - the trans lobby have no rights over other people's children - except when useful idiots try to give them to them.
Sadly until the government force the CPS to reign in these dangerous adults embedded in the service and to actually manage the CPS in the interests of society, this will continue.

Hmm

imagine a child wants to become Muslim or Christian and the parents are atheists and not willing to affirm it? Imagine if the police got involved against those parents in order to support the child’s religious conversion.

That would be a strange state of affairs.

It's not just parents or siblings of those who say they are trans- - children whose dads say they are trans are being told by the CPS to pretend their dad is mum and not share childhood photos - and other family members too, even though this contradicts UK law and international human rights.

Maureen O Hara - who I think is an academic researcher- published a report on how this breaches everyone else's human rights and UK law here
https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/the-crown-prosecution-services-approach-to-transgenderism/

Some links to the actual law- as opposed to what Stonewall wants it to be- are at the end of this CoTs article.
https://childrenoftransitioners.org/2023/07/15/six-children/

Parents could even have a police visit for “sharing pre-transition” images of their son or daughter, a move tantamount to “deadnaming” them, a reference to identifying someone by their biological sex rather than the one they have transitioned to.

It just about beggars belief that the guy was arrested and kept in the cells overnight.

What's next - Sky, BT and Virgin Media lobbying for all teenagers to be given 24/7 Internet?

Who else benefits from children being given support to do - or consent to - something which isn't necessarily in their best interests?

Good point. Does taking your child to church at Christmas if they are non-believers in God constitute conversion therapy? Does not affirming their belief in horoscopes equate to abuse? It's a slippery slope.

Just parents, or is sharing that photo of a school trip you went on with friends bad? Or that kids birthday party. Or even a photo in a newspaper...

Imagine the last pictures of grandad before he died become illegal because 'Felix' is in them but the before 'Felix'. Wedding pictures from the blended family. Faded squares on the walls from the family photos that had to be removed.

Could this herald the downfall of photos and videos on social media??? Maybe it will mean the comeback of the physical Family album.