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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Politically Disenfranchised

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WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 13/11/2023 12:09

I'm so fed up with all these totally shit options. I really like some policies which have been floated across the political spectrum, but I don't feel like I can vote for anyone who will legislate me out of existence as a woman.

What, realistically, would happen if we formed our own GC political party?

Being realistic, it's extremely likely to go the way of the Green party and Reform (lots of ideas, strong pitch, no big momentum). Add to that, the main parties wouldn't even need to do anything, the TRAs would immediately launch a smear campaign.

But I'm starting to think that this is the only way we will get heard and be able to bring what is happening properly into the light. Women working from within doesn't seem to be going anywhere in any of the left-leaning parties. Has anyone else thought about this? Have I missed a previous thread on it somewhere?

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IwantToRetire · 14/11/2023 19:51

but when that minority party is in a coalition they wield a disproportionate amount of power.

Although in real life the amount of power they have is still in the hand of their bigger partner.

Look at the Lib Dems. Sold out their promise on tuitiont fees for the promise of PR, which never happened.

And as a result, although they were the junior group, get the blame for tuition fees when clearly it was the power of the larger group (the Tories) who were the culprits.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 14/11/2023 19:55

IwantToRetire · 14/11/2023 17:41

I suppose in financial terms is the cost of a loss deposit worth the publicity of standing as an independent candidate.

As an independent you wouldn't get bogged down in having to agree a party position of this that and another, and could also reflect really local issues that impact on women localy.

And although it is great there have been some legal wins, if you add up the total amount of money donated for legal fees, how many independent women candidate would that pay for?!

Have found this but I thought the deposit was £1,000 this says it is £500

To stand for election, you'll need to be nominated by at least 10 electors from the constituency you wish to represent. You also need to pay a £500 deposit which you get back if you get more than 5% of the total votes in your constituency.
https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/mp

And brings up the question do any of us know 10 people who would nominate us ... pause for thought.

Some very good points to consider here. I thought it was £10,000 so £500 feels much more doable. From my point of view, the ideal would be seeing a raft of independent candidates across the UK drawing attention to the cause everywhere and turning up for results night (and hopefully, some actually getting in and being able to do something about the whole situation).

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Abhannmor · 14/11/2023 20:54

DuesToTheDirt · 14/11/2023 19:06

@Abhannmor but when that minority party is in a coalition they wield a disproportionate amount of power.

Really? Did you notice the power the Liberal Democrats wielded 2010 - 15? Me neither. They claim to have stopped Austerity being even worse . Perhaps they did but mainly they were used as a sort of mudguard by the Tories. Coalition is the norm here - we haven't had a single party government elected since 77. Thank heavens.

Because of this parties have their red lines before they go into partnership. The Libdems were flying blind. Some say coalitions lead to weak government. Looking at Trump and Johnson I say ' bring it on then!'

Ineedanewmoniker · 15/11/2023 20:11

Rightsraptor · 13/11/2023 12:19

It has been mooted before but hasn't yet taken off. Kellie-Jay Keen has one in the pipeline, but last I heard there were still some hurdles to jump before it could be registered. She's planning to stand against Keir Starmer in the GE.

She has been rejected again. It is looking very suspicious now, given that the monster raving loony party never has a problem.
The SDP has no representation in my area and neither do either of the communist parties. (I can never figure out which is which.)

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