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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tory Party covered up for 'serial rapist' MP - top official claims party did little to stop attacker

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IwantToRetire · 07/11/2023 18:46

A Tory Party chairman exposed an alleged cover-up of serial 'rapes' committed by an MP by reporting his Government colleagues to detectives, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Jake Berry sent a bombshell letter to police in which he revealed that a number of allegations about the MP had been made known to the party – but only limited action had been taken.

Mr Berry uncovered the scandal when he discovered the party had paid for one of the alleged victims to receive treatment at a private hospital.

Neither the alleged perpetrator nor the women said to be involved can be identified for legal reasons and the MP is referred to here as X.

Devastatingly, Mr Berry, who wrote the letter jointly with former Chief Whip Wendy Morton, another MP and a Downing Street official, claimed that the failure of the Tory Party to act had allowed the MP to continue offending after the alarm had been raised.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12711069/Tory-Party-covered-serial-rapist-MP-official-claims.html

I dont know which is worse, the fact that it happened, or the fact that it was covered up.

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Abhannmor · 07/11/2023 19:23

Fair play to Wendy Morton and Jake Berry. It seems like the Tory Party is rotting from the inside out. The police haven't covered themselves in glory of late either. Perhaps they can now redeem themselves.

IwantToRetire · 07/11/2023 19:36

Its strange that more isn't being made of this by the media, not just the Tory cover up, but that apparently the police were sent information but did not act on it.

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pickledandpuzzled · 07/11/2023 19:47

It’s tricky though- if the women don’t want to report, can other people?

I would hope they have clear guidance about what to do if such allegations are made- as in a thought through, legal and effective response.

What if there is no solution without going against the complainants wishes?

It’s an appalling situation and if anyone under reacted they need firing. I’m not sure what the correct reaction is, though.

sparklefresh · 07/11/2023 19:50

It's worrying when it's a case of 'another Tory sex offender' not just 'a Tory sex offender'.

pickledandpuzzled · 07/11/2023 19:50

Can I go to the police to say ‘Ms X tells me she was raped by Mr Y. She isn’t prepared to talk to you. Ms A said the same thing happened to her last year.’?
What would that achieve? What would they be able to do?

They are elected, you can’t kick them out without due process. I wouldn’t want to share my complaint with a bunch of mps and civil servants.

RethinkingLife · 07/11/2023 20:34

According to Dorries, a major Panorama exposé of abusive, degenerate and corrupt politicos is in the works.

That MP then went on to repeatedly sexually assault and rape, and even though the party knew about him, he retained his whip and remained undisciplined.
'He was also quite a nasty piece of work in the chamber and in Westminster in general, always attacking the Government. He even went to see Boris in No10 to ask for a promotion, or maybe it was a knighthood or something. Still Boris wasn't told about his behaviour. When he left the room, I was told Boris said, 'What a little creep.' The MP got nothing. Boris sensed he was a bad egg, and yet, still, no one told him.

'It was later discovered that someone in the party secretly sent out regular cheques to the Priory Clinic to pay for the treatment of one of this man's later victims, and still nobody spoke out.'
'How much were the cheques for?' I asked through a tight throat. 'I can't remember, but many thousands – I think around £35k a pop.
'If anyone in authority asked what the payments related to, they were told that a member of the Westminster Conservative family needed help with a mental health issue and the subject was closed down under the pretence of privacy and sensitivity.
'If action had been taken when that first rape was reported, those other women would have been saved from their life trauma.
'You could say the men who get into fixes with prostitutes and rent boys and other behaviour, they do so of their own free will. They have agency and choice. But those poor women…
'And sadly, he isn't the only one who preys on vulnerable women and has sex with them. It does tend to be vulnerable women they target. I have a list if you like, which includes one MP who took advantage of a young woman on the night before his wife gave birth to their child. The next day, he was showing people the delivery photographs on his phone.'
'Do Labour MPs behave like this?' I asked him.
'They do, of course. I think Panorama are making a documentary about it and most of the sting is Labour MPs because they are the only cases they know about. The thing is, it's never been good in Westminster, but it's never before been as bad as it is right now.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12711071/MP-sex-prostitute-Tory-MPs-cheered-on.html

NB: consider the source.

NADINE DORRIES: MP had sex with prostitute while Tory MPs cheered on

NADINE DORRIES: These shocking revelations are from a veteran Tory politician I have been brought to meet in great secrecy as part of my investigation into the corrupt cabal at the heart of the party.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12711071/MP-sex-prostitute-Tory-MPs-cheered-on.html

IwantToRetire · 07/11/2023 20:54

NB: consider the source.

Clearly you haven't bother to read the link in the OP.

Sometimes it feels pointless posting anying on FWR as the thread gets clogged up with people who just hijack it to go on and on and on about their own unrelated obsession.

So for those to lazy to actual help return FWR to a place of reasonable and informed discussion.

  1. The source of the story is Jake Berry a Tory Party Chairman (unless someone has an even more startling story that Nadine Dorries was leading a double life)
  2. Mr Berry uncovered the scandal when he discovered the party had paid for one of the alleged victims to receive treatment at a private hospital.
  3. It isn't clear whether the women concerned want to go ahead with a criminal investigation, all the story says is "Neither the alleged perpetrator nor the women said to be involved can be identified for legal reasons and the MP is referred to here as X" which implies that an investigation may be happening.

But still if people want to make this another dead end FWR thread by coming on with no intent in engaging but just using it as an opportunity to illustrate their obsession - although you would have thought they would have enough integrity to start their own thread and bother to explain why they have this obsession. Or at least acknowledged they couldn't be bother to read the OP.

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PerkingFaintly · 07/11/2023 20:55

Fair play to Wendy Morton and Jake Berry.

Yes absolutely.

RethinkingLife · 07/11/2023 21:52

NB: consider the source.

Clearly you haven't bother to read the link in the OP.

Clearly, I didn't anticipate that you wouldn't understand that my remark was about Dorries.

Incivility is rarely the basis of a good faith exchange.

donquixotedelamancha · 07/11/2023 22:04

IwantToRetire · 07/11/2023 19:36

Its strange that more isn't being made of this by the media, not just the Tory cover up, but that apparently the police were sent information but did not act on it.

I can't believe this isn't front page news. If it isn't by tomorrow then I might actually start to believe the media conspiracy nonsense.

Floppyelf · 07/11/2023 22:07

Why is this only being noticed by users here. This was big news on twitter over the last few days.

another creep is jon boulton who has legally changed his name. I can’t think of anyone who would vote tory as a human being after all this expose’s

LadyWithLapdog · 07/11/2023 22:15

Is this the big exposé that wasn’t in the end of a few weeks ago?

donquixotedelamancha · 07/11/2023 22:18

sparklefresh · 07/11/2023 19:50

It's worrying when it's a case of 'another Tory sex offender' not just 'a Tory sex offender'.

Not 'merely' another sexual assault- yet another alleged rapist. Like all the others the party back him.

My local MP was found not guilty and is now very senior but a lot of local members complained to the party of completely overt sexual assaults long before one of his rape victims was brave enough to go to the police.

He's still a regular church goer and now campaigns for rapist's rights.

DrBlackbird · 07/11/2023 22:25

Caroline Noakes was on woman’s hour talking about this yesterday. Apparently an open secret. Really appalling and depressing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001s555

BBC Radio 4 - Woman's Hour, MP rape allegations, Mothers' march, Melissa Caddick

An un-named Conservative MP has been accused of rape several times.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001s555

sparklefresh · 07/11/2023 22:28

But nothing will happen. Nothing ever does. And people will still vote for them.

IwantToRetire · 08/11/2023 00:18

Clearly, I didn't anticipate that you wouldn't understand that my remark was about Dorries.

Clearly I did as I explained to you the source was NOT Dorries, but you insisted on avoiding the actual story which is about one of the Tory chairman.

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IwantToRetire · 08/11/2023 00:22

I did see this story when it was first published and anticipated more news, but it seem to just disappear.

But did anticipate someone would post on FWR, but had no internet connection yesterday.

So finding no one had I posted today.

I think part of the problem is that some on FWR have been led to believe that they can only start threads about "Sex and gender" because MNHQ took it into their head to try and divvy up feminist into different strands.

Whereas of course feminism is about any thing that impacts on women as the root of the discrimination, violence, etc., is because on their sex.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 08/11/2023 00:57

Are you surprised @IwantToRetire ? The Tory party are a misogynistic fuckbag of individuals who only notice women when they can use them.

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/11/2023 01:26

The Tory Barry did nothing to stop him raping women. Until perhaps now. He's still an MP with an "unblemished" record. Hes still responsible for government policy.

RayonSunrise · 08/11/2023 07:00

I can see I'm going to have to bang this drum again. There has been a growing group of posters here convinced that threats to women only come from the left due to gender ideology, despite the blindingly obvious point that GI gained a foothold under a very longstanding Tory government.

Now we can see that "open secret" rape and sexual assault was happening in the party and was covered up by the whips in the name of party discipline.

I have no doubt that this is a function of party discipline as well as misogyny, and it could be happening in any party. I also think that unrolling GI is going to be a long, hard slog no matter who is in charge. We really need to abandon the magical thinking that if we just vote for x, women's problems will be solved. It's not going to happen! We need to be ready to keep working and making sure the law protects us and is enforced.

pickledandpuzzled · 08/11/2023 07:05

'Do Labour MPs behave like this?' I asked him.
'They do, of course. I think Panorama are making a documentary about it and most of the sting is Labour MPs because they are the only cases they know about. The thing is, it's never been good in Westminster, but it's never before been as bad as it is right now.'”

It’s not Tories, it’s men and institutions. Making this party political minimises it

It’s men and institutions, is at the heart of society, and needs sorting.

Trailstunning · 08/11/2023 07:11

pickledandpuzzled · 08/11/2023 07:05

'Do Labour MPs behave like this?' I asked him.
'They do, of course. I think Panorama are making a documentary about it and most of the sting is Labour MPs because they are the only cases they know about. The thing is, it's never been good in Westminster, but it's never before been as bad as it is right now.'”

It’s not Tories, it’s men and institutions. Making this party political minimises it

It’s men and institutions, is at the heart of society, and needs sorting.

Ha ha So a Tory MP is a rapist, Tory party covers it up BUT its a problem with ALL institutions??

The Tories (or the Labour Party) aren't responsible for what an individual MP does but they are responsible for their response to vicious crimes & the Tories tried to cover it up, even paying for a victims care.

Quite unbelievable you are trying to minimise this with false equivalence.

PictureFrameWindow · 08/11/2023 07:19

That's disgusting. The thing is, I should be shocked but I'm not. I should be outraged but it's hard to muster. This government has shown itself so rotten already. I'm worried about the apathy I feel for politicians.

GailBlancheViola · 08/11/2023 10:45

I think part of the problem

In my opinion the 'problem' regarding engaging with you or your threads is your attitude @IwantToRetire . You appear to have determined that you are the authority on all things Feminist, on how the Feminist Boards on MN must be used, how many threads are allowed on a particular subject, how posters must respond, how things must be done. No matter what posters say there you are policing their words or their tone or stamping your feet because the thread they are on is similar to one you started. You stomp around this Board issuing your diktats and you wonder why posters won't engage with you or on threads you start?

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/11/2023 13:39

This woman reported her rape to the Tory party. She was told to "get over it".Angry
https://twitter.com/rpaton11/status/1721306014505427026?s=20

https://twitter.com/rpaton11/status/1721306014505427026?s=20

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