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‘Gender-Affirming Care Is Dangerous. I Know Because I Helped Pioneer It.’ - Article in The FP

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UtopiaPlanitia · 30/10/2023 13:45

I’m reading this article and thought it would be of interest to FWR. I’m impressed by Dr Kaltiala and the interviews she has done in recent years, she very much has protection of children and adolescents at the heart of her speaking out.

‘Gender-Affirming Care Is Dangerous. I Know Because I Helped Pioneer It.’
https://www.thefp.com/p/gender-affirming-care-dangerous-finland-doctor

‘Gender-Affirming Care Is Dangerous. I Know Because I Helped Pioneer It.’

My country, and others, found there is no solid evidence supporting the medical transitioning of young people. Why aren’t American clinicians paying attention?

https://www.thefp.com/p/gender-affirming-care-dangerous-finland-doctor

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RainWithSunnySpells · 01/11/2023 12:24

pronounsbundlebundle · 01/11/2023 10:21

It still doesn't explain why 'allies' support it so vigorously, especially female allies with no children. This group are neither the three letter acronym or parents of puberty blocked children themselves.

I see this group as Dolores Umbridges. Love feeling superior and smug and enjoy the power they get from blindly following a trendy cause with social capital, regardless of how obviously nonsensical or harmful it is. They would have been the people reporting their neighbours to the Stasi also. Too thick to realise it could quite easily backfire on them or those they love...

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Yes, I see your point. The pro authoritarians with no thought about what they are pushing, just the enjoyment of supressing someone else for 'wrong think'. Grim.

UtopiaPlanitia · 01/11/2023 13:14

Helleofabore · 01/11/2023 08:29

And if you cannot present a coherent argument without an ad hom attack on the media, you know your argument is fucked.

Puberty blockers for kids have been used way before 2011.”

So, Mishy, can YOU post the studies that show that the treatments that this Dr is talking about improves the lives of children and adolescents? Since you supposedly know so much about them. And according to you the medical community should have decades of data to show that improvement.

And Because you have posted unevidenced misinformation for years on this board. And not one study or review of evidence that shows improvement.

This article, that you are telling readers to dismiss because you ignorantly think the media outlet is far more important than the content, has several peer reviewed studies linked. Would you like to tell everyone why this clinical specialist, should dismiss those? No?

No? Nothing but superficial assurances with this laughable and in your instance, ridiculous statement. “For those more balanced among us, I would treat this with a high degree of scepticism.

Not once have you posted anything at all that has any scientific merit, or anything that is truly supportive of children and adolescent care. In your years on this board. Instead you support these patients receiving a poor standard of care.

Instead, you post this:

But if your life view is that treatment for trans people is wrong, and they are mentally ill, then I am sure it will reinforce for you that belief.

I can see from this statement that you don’t seem to know any children or adolescents with trans identities at all. Because any one who does know children or adolescents with trans identities knows there is a very high likelihood of poor, even fragile, mental health. Shall I start to post the proportion of children and adolescents who are being treated or have been treated with their comorbidities? The Cass report has these, which you would know if you even bothered reading it.

I have other evidence as well. Have you missed all those links over the years, or just ignored them because of your ignorant attitude of dismissing content because of the media the content is published on?

Maybe it is time you posted some evidence to support your own posts, don’t you think? Or do you actually expect any reader who can search your name to give your posts any credibility?

Please stop spreading misinformation. It is you who is supporting a poor level of care for children and adolescents in your efforts to shame readers and posters on this board.

Helleofabore, I always find your posts interesting and informative.

To me, that poster’s words read as catechism; blind faith and no interest in interrogating the subject in a meaningful way.

I think it takes effort in today’s climate to maintain a belief that long term pubertal suppression is safe and effective, particularly given the evidence that has come to light regarding the serious side effects, even when used for shorter periods of time.

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