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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
katepilar · 23/10/2023 20:19

Uh. In shock to be honest.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 23/10/2023 20:29

Children learning the proper names for their genitals / anatomy is a key element of safeguarding

yetanotherusernameAgain · 23/10/2023 20:35

Doesn't "outie" refer to a protruding belly button?

As for vagina/front hole, where does this doctor think women urinate from? Vagina/vulva is the middle hole, but only if you have 3 holes.

And names for body parts are already gender neutral. The word "ovaries" isn't feminine in itself, it's just associated with women because only women have ovaries.

ChishiyaBat · 23/10/2023 20:38

That is such a load of absolute nonsense, what is this world coming to?!

Rightsraptor · 23/10/2023 20:40

She's in California; say no more.

Well, I will. Are they even using the word vagina accurately? I suspect they mean vulva. And this stuff is so dangerous: if we can't accurately name anything how can we talk about it feeling wrong? Although perhaps that's the point.

These people terrify me.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/10/2023 20:44

She's in California; say no more

So glad someone posted that before I did 😆

Rightsraptor · 23/10/2023 20:58

Well, quite. These words aren't intrinsically sexed at all, we just associate them with sex organs etc because that's how they're used. Fifty years of 'front hole' and 'outie' and they will have exactly the same resonance as 'vagina' and 'penis' do now and have done since whenever.

Fenlandia · 23/10/2023 21:25

Yet another episode of the infantilism at the heart of gender ideology. It's all so prurient too, and makes the miracle of human bodies, male or female, into a game of 'who can come up with the dumbest name for a body part'.

NitroNine · 23/10/2023 21:46

Own up, who used the last of the brain bleach & didn’t replace it? A truly dreadful day to be literate & possessed of an internet connection. <attempts to obliviate self>

As @howdoesatoastermaketoast so swiftly identified; children knowing the correct terms for their anatomy is really important for helping safeguard them. The first tip the AAP offers for teaching children about boundaries & safety is:
Use appropriate language. Teach children proper names for all body parts, including their genitals: penis, vagina, breasts and buttocks. Making up names for body parts may give the impression that they are bad or a secret and cannot be talked about.
So for some reason a member has given a presentation at the National Conference calling for the AAP to abandon that facet of child safeguarding in favour of language that is inaccurate; pornified; & unsuitable in just about every other way possible.

Of course, it’s notable that this doctor brushes off the potential harms of both binding & tucking. With the former there’s no mention that it causes breast tissue to become deformed. Pain in & deformation of the ribs & back yes - but the breast tissue issue is omitted. Even if the “good” doctor is assuming that all teenagers who wear binders will have mastectomies; she should be aware that mangled tissue makes the surgery much harder & the results worse.

Truly heinous, all of it.

The Case for Teaching Kids 'Vagina,' 'Penis,' and 'Vulva'

Sex-abuse prevention educators want children to understand that "private parts" are off limits to others. But they also want kids to be comfortable using what linguists call "standard" dialect for these parts, rather than euphemisms and colloquialisms.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/04/the-case-for-teaching-kids-vagina-penis-and-vulva/274969/

ApocalipstickNow · 23/10/2023 21:49

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 23/10/2023 20:29

Children learning the proper names for their genitals / anatomy is a key element of safeguarding

This should be pinned on every page.

SpicyMoth · 23/10/2023 23:47

I thought this was going to; penis = outie, vagina = innie.
What the fuck is a "dicklet"?
Why start with outies, and then jump to dicklet rather than innie??
Just.. What? 😂

How can anyone get past shit like this and take their other points on gender seriously? They can barely even string words together.

SamW98 · 23/10/2023 23:53

Make it stop!! If anything isn’t gender neutral is the sex organs.

And dicklet - as in mini dick?? Seriously WTAF? And the fact someone who is medically trained and qualified is coming out with this shit - surely it’s jumped the shark now and everyone with a functioning brain can see how ludicrous this all is.

CrystalDay · 23/10/2023 23:55

I was wondering what belly buttons had to do with feminism before I clicked.

Just ridiculous.

ChishiyaBat · 23/10/2023 23:56

@SpicyMoth I am still not convinced this is actually serious, you are right what is a dicklet? And don't even get me started on chesticles! And also where are the words for testicles? Anyone want to have a go at renaming them?

Do you have an outie?
SpicyMoth · 24/10/2023 00:05

ChishiyaBat · 23/10/2023 23:56

@SpicyMoth I am still not convinced this is actually serious, you are right what is a dicklet? And don't even get me started on chesticles! And also where are the words for testicles? Anyone want to have a go at renaming them?

Oh I seeeee, dicklet is supposed to be clit, I didn't have the energy to actually click the link - My eyes were taking all that up with rolling!

Surely if breasts are chesticles, then testicles must be breasticles? 😂
Kill me now!

SpicyMoth · 24/10/2023 00:08

They... They really don't see it, huh?

EDIT: Can't remove the image, sorry it's so distorted!
I was quoting this part; "'I worry about kids being provided with incomplete information, leading to uninformed behavior and unintended consequences,' Dr Mason said. "

Do you have an outie?
ChishiyaBat · 24/10/2023 00:17

It's just absolutely bonkers @SpicyMoth how is changing the names of body parts complete information, it's absolutely mental!
For testicles I say we go with sperm hammocks😂

Transparent2 · 24/10/2023 00:21

Balls.

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 24/10/2023 00:28

I love the coy * in dicklet. Because of course front hole is A okay but shhh no-one say dick. I may be looking at the inside of my head forever because my eyes have rolled so hard they stuck.

CorvusPurpureus · 24/10/2023 00:35

A google image search on Dr Ilana Sherer throws up some curious links.

Pixiedust1234 · 24/10/2023 00:42

Says it all if they think women urinate from their vagina. We really don't exist. As for dicklets for a body part, #nothank you. However perhaps a new name for a certain group, I think it's our turn to rename something. TERFS vs dicklets.

And yes, I was idly wondering why protruding bellybuttons were in FWR...maybe those with them have more masculine traits because they have another protruding thing???

CallieQ · 24/10/2023 01:24

D*cklet 😂

Brokendaughter · 24/10/2023 04:26

Why are all these suggested replacement words for things that already have names words that sound like a 5 year old came up with them?

AutumnCrow · 24/10/2023 04:34

Brokendaughter · 24/10/2023 04:26

Why are all these suggested replacement words for things that already have names words that sound like a 5 year old came up with them?

I think 5 is the age that some of these loons would like to start ‘doing their work’ on kids if they had their way.

Imamumgetmeoutofhere · 24/10/2023 04:41

Well this is a major safeguarding concern to me. Children need to know the correct names of body parts