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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kew Gardens, yes, *Kew Gardens*, says plants have "gender" not "sex"

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MmePoppySeedDefage · 22/10/2023 18:54

I have been a member of Kew Gardens for a while. Every so often I get a magazine from them, and this unscientific bilge was in the latest edition. I've written and from the swift reply, obviously others have too. They mutter about fungus:

Thank you for your email. As part of Queer Nature, we explore how queer people find themselves in nature, and how a closer look at nature through a queer lens can challenge many pre-existing ideas about what is ‘natural’ and ‘unnatural’.

While we recognise that human sexual identities cannot be applied to nature, we want to celebrate the fact that, as in humans, there is huge diversity in the natural world. Many plants and fungi have characteristics that do not fit within traditional forms of categorisation. Some examples include:
• Avocado - is one example of many plants which is fertilised when its own pollen finds its way from the stamens into the ovule, meaning it can ‘self-pollinate’
• Ruizia Mauritiana - found in the Temperate House at Kew, this plant can change the flowers it produces based on temperature
• Some citrus and many other flowering plants produce seeds by apomixis, they reproduce without fertilisation and, in effect, are asexual.

• Liverworts – these can reproduce asexually by means of gemmae, which means a single cell, or a mass of cells, or a modified bud of tissue, that detaches from the parent and develops into a new individual
• Fungi - Fungi don’t have what we would refer to as biological sexes at all. In human terms, they are also the ultimate pansexuals, engaging in sexual reproduction with any compatible member of their own species.
• The Splitgill mushroom (Schizophyllum commune) has been found to have more than 23,000 mating types.

Kew Gardens, yes, *Kew Gardens*, says plants have "gender" not "sex"
OP posts:
SinnerBoy · 25/10/2023 02:33

Irises - flags.. Groan, make it stop!

IncomingTraffic · 25/10/2023 07:47

MagpiePi · 24/10/2023 16:13

More importantly, do they all have flags?

That would be a very large flag. And they’d run out of distinguishable colours for stripes.

Although, given it’s a mushroom, I suspect it is entirely indifferent to gender ideology flags - so the only offended parties would be fools who need to be told that humans are not mushrooms.

I mean… who would have thought that in 2023 we would have to be writing the sentence ‘humans are not mushrooms’ because some gender ideology will grasp at any straws, and anthropomorphise anything to try to find a basis for their insistence that biological sex doesn’t matter.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 25/10/2023 11:48

I'm sure there is a mushroom gender somewhere out there ... likes the dark and can be lethal?

Merrymouse · 25/10/2023 12:05

By relating the act of sex so directly to reproduction, Kew Gardens actually come across as rather religious fundamentalist…

they sound confused.

IcakethereforeIam · 25/10/2023 12:16

Ooh, isn't Iris the goddess of the rainbow. It's all coming together🙃

EtiennePalmiere · 25/10/2023 12:59

IcakethereforeIam · 25/10/2023 12:16

Ooh, isn't Iris the goddess of the rainbow. It's all coming together🙃

There's a type of iris called blue flag as well

IcakethereforeIam · 25/10/2023 13:03

EtiennePalmiere · 25/10/2023 12:59

There's a type of iris called blue flag as well

I know that there's a yellow flag too. There really should be a red one.

Mourningbecomeselectra · 25/10/2023 13:04

Um yes, thanks for the interesting facts about fungi, also did you know aphids reproduce by cloning and don’t get me started on snails. Nature is amazing. WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HUMAN SOCIOLOGY

ArcheryAnnie · 25/10/2023 15:03

Abhannmor · 23/10/2023 14:01

When you're on mushrooms there are no sex categories because I am you and you are me and we are all together.

😁😁😁

Honestly, a mushroom trip by one of the event organisers would explain a lot about the exhibition.

RethinkingLife · 25/10/2023 16:42

Mourningbecomeselectra · 25/10/2023 13:04

Um yes, thanks for the interesting facts about fungi, also did you know aphids reproduce by cloning and don’t get me started on snails. Nature is amazing. WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HUMAN SOCIOLOGY

Were you there for the exploration of bee sex prompted by a published paper on "How Mean Girls Used WhatsApp to Bring Down an OU Vice-Chancellor"? (Jo Phoenix thread.)

I learned far more than I would ever wish to have known about bee mating but also about

  • survival as a hive rather than individuals
  • the selection process for killing drones
  • how Queen bees are subject to regicide by heat stress.
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