A judge says the right thing (in Scotland)

[Readingundertheoaktree]

Article on Sky news about a male paedophile who 'is in the process of transitioning' (of course he is).

The perpetrator is referred to as he and him throughout the reporting, and then this:

The judge added that Miller being dressed and presenting as a woman was an aggravating factor as he doubted that the girl would have got into the car having known it was a man.

Lord Arthurson said: "The narrative was frankly nauseating in terms of its depravity and criminal sexual deviancy."

Well said Lord Arthurson!

The reason the perpetrator is referred to as a man and the media use 'he' pronouns is because that was the perpetrator's own decision. According to the BBC article:

"At the time of his arrest, he was presenting as Amy George but confirmed he wished to be addressed as Andrew Miller using "he" pronouns for simplicity."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67144375

Presumably if he had wanted to maintain his female persona then the media/court would be referring to him as a woman and using 'she' pronouns.

He can transition in jail and come out with a new face, tits, paperwork and name all done with public money

The cynic in me thinks this is to ensure the sparkly shiny new name stays clean.

I was surprised by BBC's use of correct pronouns. So it appears it's up to the rapist in question? If he asks for "she" to be used in news reports then that's what will happen?

Correct.

Note the last paragraph in the BBC story, regarding Isla Bryson/Adam Graham:
"Bryson was initially placed in a female prison after being convicted of raping two women while she was known as a man called Adam Graham."

Because Isla Bryson/Adam Graham.wanted to br called 'she' by the criminal justice system, whereas Andrew Miller/Amy George wanted to be called 'he'.

Mad, isn't it?

Seems so and, at the rapist's discretion, it would have been recorded as a woman's crime.

I didn't see the BBC article, the Sky piece is here:

https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-miller-jailed-for-20-years-for-abducting-and-sexually-assaulting-girl-in-scottish-borders-12983829

It's no surprise the BBC made a point to mention it was his choice, an example of why I no longer read their website.

I wonder how many of these incredibly dangerous men that "transition" actually go for the full surgery. I suspect 0. Sadly the most depraved and violent men will use gender dysphoria for their own gain. They see it as a golden ticket into women's spaces.

Actually the Sky News story is rather disingenuous. It says "Miller,* *who was addressed as a male by the court..."

Thus suggests that was the court's decision. It wasn't, it was Andrew Miller's choice. He could have chosen to be referred to as 'she' and the court would have gone along with if.

Yes. And he has been speaking about his 'regret this might impact the trans community'. Any 'regret' should be for what he did to that poor wee lassie.
It's also a classic case of an easily traceable escalation of crimes. 'Tranny Miller' has been a problem in the area for a long time but residents in his naice village looked the other way as 'that sort of thing doesn't happen here'. It does. Sentencing clearly timed for day after SNP conference to avoid tricky Qus too. Corrupt as fuck. As per.

I know that there is so much more that can be done about this stuff; we don't need to pay for transitioning prisoners, you can make a presumption in law that claiming to be transgender is not a relevant factor on sentence to override harm inflicted.

These things aren't beyond the wit of any political party.

It will be this.

Theres no chance that he would be placed in a womens prison, so hes letting the name 'Amy George' disappear.

When hes released he can rename himself, and be disassociated with the amy george and andew miller.

The judge added that Miller being dressed and presenting as a woman was an aggravating factor as he doubted that the girl would have got into the car having known it was a man.

Its also why its important not to tell children that men dressed as women are women.

I think the BBC and other media outlets follow the decision made by the court. So if the court had referred to him as "she", then the BBC would have done so too.

What's shocking is that it's the offender, apparently, who gets to decide. It's sickening.

Yes exactly. What chances do children have? It's a negation of adult responsibility to protect them from predators.

Readingundertheoaktree · Today 12:11

It's no surprise the BBC made a point to mention it was his choice, an example of why I no longer read their website.

I don't understand why? Surely it's important to know that it was entirely his decision not to be referred to as female? Without that information, people would have assumed that the judge had decided to sex him correctly.

@medianewbie not true, no one liked him. Everyone thought he was an absolute freak. People avoided him and his shop.

@DemBonesDemBones I'm not saying he was popular. Most locals used the other butchers (as did I once I learned why he was called 'Mincing Miller'). But there is often an element of 'it doesn't happen here' in small communities.

What a vile individual. I don't think any human being would want to share a cell with that person, regardless of gender.

I also do not think 'the community is to blame' in any way. Any blame lies squarely with Miller. But I'm nervous about the guy down the lane (& have heard folk say: 'oh, he's just a bit weird')

AlphaTransWoman · Today 17:52

What a vile individual. I don't think any human being would want to share a cell with that person, regardless of gender.

And most especially not of the female sex.

SisterMichaelsHabit · Today 19:19

This is what concerns me that we don't teach about "stranger danger" anymore.

They do, my daughter did in in Years 2 & 3; she's in year 6 now and they do online safety, too.