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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
dolorsit · 16/10/2023 08:06

To be fair, at the time those photos were taken Tiff was going by the name Obi-Wan Kenobi. (I admit I don't know if Mr Kenobi was identifying as a Jedi knight at the time)

Lilacanemone · 16/10/2023 08:19

Chersfrozenface · 16/10/2023 07:37

We have to use the pronouns people choose for themselves.

Whoever they are. Whatever they've done.

Acceptance without exception, remember. "I am what I say I am."

The papers are only doing what they are pressured to do, particularly by the Independent Press Standards Organisation.

I think everyone should refuse to do it. It’s ridiculous.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 16/10/2023 08:32

this person is in the male jail but Paris green, a particularly nasty murderer who keeps accidentally having sex with inmates, is in the female jail.

Paris and Tiffany are the same sort of woman. Maybe they could be in the same sort of cell?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 16/10/2023 08:33

viques · 15/10/2023 23:46

Has a lot to do with the way he behaves though which is the real issue about where he , and other trans women prisoners , should be held.

And that is exactly why self-id is so dangerous and exactly why certain areas/activities should be segregated by sex rather than gender.

FrancescaContini · 16/10/2023 08:35

Thank God he wasn’t sent to a women’s prison

Rightsraptor · 16/10/2023 08:42

I'd love it if just one newspaper had the guts to correctly sex these men. What would IPSO actually do - fine them the sort of money they keep in the petty cash?

I told IPSO in the recent consultation that I no longer believe anything I read in newspapers because of this rubbish. If they lie about this, what else will they lie about?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 16/10/2023 08:49

Rightsraptor · 16/10/2023 08:42

I'd love it if just one newspaper had the guts to correctly sex these men. What would IPSO actually do - fine them the sort of money they keep in the petty cash?

I told IPSO in the recent consultation that I no longer believe anything I read in newspapers because of this rubbish. If they lie about this, what else will they lie about?

I don't know. I think the obvious maleness coupled with female pronouns will make people who are unaware of the what is going on realise that this is ridiculous and needs to be stopped

ArabellaScott · 16/10/2023 08:51

Tiffany Scott is just as much a woman as every other transwoman on the planet.

MassiveWordSalad · 16/10/2023 09:27

Rightsraptor · 16/10/2023 08:42

I'd love it if just one newspaper had the guts to correctly sex these men. What would IPSO actually do - fine them the sort of money they keep in the petty cash?

I told IPSO in the recent consultation that I no longer believe anything I read in newspapers because of this rubbish. If they lie about this, what else will they lie about?

They can impose a fine of up to £1 million for a breach of the code, apparently.

www.ipso.co.uk/monitoring/standards-investigations/

MassiveWordSalad · 16/10/2023 09:31

Also, as people have mentioned on the other thread on this matter, using 'Tiffany's' preferred pronouns draws attention to the issue in a way that calling him he would not.

For those who haven't peaked yet, or are unaware of the situation, seeing a visual of this dangerous scumbag alongside 'she' and 'Tiffany' has quite a jarring impact. See also Isla Bryson.

DialSquare · 16/10/2023 09:39

ArabellaScott · 16/10/2023 08:51

Tiffany Scott is just as much a woman as every other transwoman on the planet.

Exactly this. Tiffany (amongst others) proves exactly what we have been concerned about for years with going along with gender ideology.

RavingStone · 16/10/2023 09:47

If males like Tiffany tell a doctor they've been using women's toilets for 2 years and have got the sex marker on their documents changed and have gone off on one at the utilities company for addressing the bill to "Mr" they can easily become "legally female".

When "legally female" they are considered by our next government to be the same as women, but with more legal protections. Many in our next government view having to talk to a doctor as "degrading", so would do away with that part.

Whether or not Tiffany is wearing lipstick and a skirt or has had some fake tits implanted on his chest is neither here nor there. He remains a male bodied human socialised male in a patriarchal society where male violence against women and girls is endemic (rape being virtually legal); maternity discrimination is rife; and the gender pay gap persists.

PatatiPatatras · 16/10/2023 12:44

I don't think this guy is claiming to be trans to get in with women. He's using woman face as a finger to the establishment... his last hold of power on anyone with authority over him. Compelling them to use words he demands.. . It's a mess.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 16/10/2023 12:49

How can you tell he's not trans? What distinguishes him from someone who is genuinely trans? Will you accept the word of a genuine trans person? How do you know their word should be accepted but his shouldn't?

WickedSerious · 16/10/2023 12:51

OchonAgusOchonOh · 15/10/2023 23:30

Not according to the stonewall et al. No effort other than feeling it is required.

Aye,it's all about those elusive girlyfeelz.

INTERNETEXPL0RER · 16/10/2023 13:02

Sarah2891 · 15/10/2023 23:10

I wish they wouldn't say he's a trans prisoner. He's clearly not. He's just saying it to try and get in with the women. What a joke that they all have to call this man 'her'.

Can I remind you @Sarah2891 , that transwomen do not owe the world femininity. Or in this case, the sheriff and legal team at Glasgow Sheriff Court.

If you look into this person’s soul you can clearly see that they are a woman.

IkaBaar · 16/10/2023 13:02

How come the press can show photos of ‘women’ prisoners with their breasts exposed?

INTERNETEXPL0RER · 16/10/2023 13:13

I am shocked that sone of you are suggesting that Tiffany is not a woman . Next thing you will be suggesting that he’s not Jewish either.

https://transcrimeuk.com/2017/10/31/andrew-burns-tiffany-scott/

Andrew Burns / Tiffany Scott – Trans Crime UK

https://transcrimeuk.com/2017/10/31/andrew-burns-tiffany-scott/

Isheabastard · 16/10/2023 13:38

I’m beginning to wonder if Tiffany and Isla Bryson will inadvertently be of help to the GC cause?

Please hear me out.

Their arrogance and entitlement to so obviously take advantage of ‘self ID, is so blatant that surely it disproves “this will never happen”. Even those with no skin in the game, or the most ardent supporter of TWAW must read and see this and think WTF!

The ruling that newspapers must refer to ‘her’ in cases like these is now comedy gold.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 16/10/2023 13:49

Isheabastard · 16/10/2023 13:38

I’m beginning to wonder if Tiffany and Isla Bryson will inadvertently be of help to the GC cause?

Please hear me out.

Their arrogance and entitlement to so obviously take advantage of ‘self ID, is so blatant that surely it disproves “this will never happen”. Even those with no skin in the game, or the most ardent supporter of TWAW must read and see this and think WTF!

The ruling that newspapers must refer to ‘her’ in cases like these is now comedy gold.

Unfortunately, I don't think so. You just have to look at some of the replies on here stating Tiffany isn't really trans.

Apparently, TRAs have a super power where they can tell. Unfortunately, they won't tell the rest of us how to identify real trans and those horrible, evil people who are pretending to be trans and putting real trans people at risk of genocide by the masquerade.

IcakethereforeIam · 18/10/2023 16:56

Jo Bartosch on the lovely Tiffany from Spiked (archive link)

https://archive.ph/5oJpH

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AllProperTeaIsTheft · 18/10/2023 17:00

I think it is fair to say that most trans women make a bit of an effort, apart from calling himself Tiffany I can’t see much effort in his so called transition.

Some predatory men probably think it well worth their while to make a bit of an effort though, even if 'Tiffany' hasn't. So I'm not sure that really helps in these cases in general.

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