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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Words are actual violence", but actual violence can be explained by words.

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RealityFan · 11/10/2023 10:12

Other than the mantras, "trans women are women", and "do you want a dead daughter or an alive son?", one of the other statements wheeled out by trans, trans allies, and leftists who have adopted intersectional politics is "words are actual violence".

People will literally hound you on Twitter if you mount any kind of robust defence of GC views and women's rights. Your words as a GC have chilling real world ramifications in pushing trans youth to suicide, boosting the atmosphere of hate, picking on the marginalised.

Women at LWS relating harrowing tales of DV, rape etc are shut down by Leftist men who scream these women are spouting words equating to actual violence.

And now we see the activist Left's response to the actual violence from Hamas. No words over there, just actions. And imho, those actions speak a thousand words.

And our activist Leftist friends? Now the violence can be explained away by words. A total inversion of their position towards GC women, and women in general. Now, a thousand words are used to justify a single act of violence, multiplied thousands of times over.

Now actual violence is a thing, but words are fine.

I'm not condoning historical inequities and terrible outcomes in Gaza. As a non religious person, I've always had mixed feelings about a religious state. No, my beef here is specifically with the Left who are happy to silence the words of women when not a single violent outcome can be attributed to the words of Joyce, Stock, Bindel, Bartosch, Greer, Moore et al. But cataclysmic violence especially against women and children is literally ignored or in some cases celebrated by the same activists.

I've spent my entire late teens/adult life allying myself to the liberal left view of society, pretty much anti Israel as a teen socialist, especially as an atheist. But I'm detaching fast, initially several years as a GC exasperated by their enthusiastic capitulation to TRA mantras, and now the hard realpolitik of their responses to Hamas.

Words are actual violence? No, violence is actual violence.

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Dowhadiddydiddydum · 11/10/2023 10:41

I don’t know about the link to the Israeli/Palestine situation. However I have always found it odd that so much anger Is directed towards the words of GC women, rather than those who would actually harm/kill a person for me trans and commit actually physical violence (mainly men). Never makes sense to me.

RealityFan · 11/10/2023 10:52

This is really my point. I'm bringing up Hamas, because here, violence is violence, indeed, beyond mere words, yet the very same activists who say that Sunak's soundbyte that "a woman is a woman and a man is a man" equates to actual violence then totally obfuscate these recent bloody events.

More evidence as to how infantilised the activists are, how cos playing has become more important than really taking a stand, and how the Left are acting out the inevitable result of the choices they made over the last half century, putting the claims of the individual ahead of the community.

Watching the activist Left eat itself over trans politics and at best equivocating over Hamas actions, at worst feeling kinship to their "cause", demonstrates the rot has set in very deeply indeed.

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TheresaOfAvila · 11/10/2023 11:24

I also think Trans activism and HAMAS are at least one order of magnitude apart.

Words are literal violence is just a rhetorical device, and should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

RealityFan · 11/10/2023 11:48

TheresaOfAvila · 11/10/2023 11:24

I also think Trans activism and HAMAS are at least one order of magnitude apart.

Words are literal violence is just a rhetorical device, and should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

Of course I'm not saying TRA and Hamas are morally equivalent. Hamas is a death cult one shade less extreme than ISIS, and TRAs are cos playing men in dresses and agged up youth, a universe away.

My point is that the preposterousness of words are actual violence is laid bare by these angry activists when confronted with actual violence, explain away with actual words.

For me, it demonstrates the void at the heart of activist Leftism.

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IcakethereforeIam · 11/10/2023 11:52

I think they'll be a massive overlap between tras and those excusing the terrorists of hamas.

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