Police recording rapists as women

[Justme56]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/06/rapists-wrongly-labelled-as-women-by-police/

There is an archive version on this. Am I allowed to post it?

Here's the link

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1479/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/1479/pub/1479/page/2/article/NaN

I think we really have seen the unraveling of the ideological beliefs impact on law and guidance start.

The issue is and always was that the police should not have to make a decision as to whether a trans person’s claim of sex should be believed or not. Identity documents should have sex stated clearly. They might have gender separate but sex should never have been changed. Police could then reliably report the sex of the offender.

Instead we have this ideologically driven mess.

It will have to be one way or another. You cannot have a male with a trans identity reported as one sex for one type of crime vs another. It must be the same for all crimes, for all people.

If these are the figures for rape which can be easily be referenced due to the definition of rape what are the figures going to be for sexual assault, stalking, child pornography, violence that will remain as reports against women or sexless.

I thought this comment from the Daily Mail was interesting -
"Police and civil service obstructing governance."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12603973/Police-wrongly-label-hundreds-rapists-women-referrals-CPS-despite-Home-Secretary-Suella-Bravermans-orders-not-to.html#article-12603973
This seems very dangerous to me, the Civil Service and Police work for somebody else now.

Hopefully Prof Alice Sullivan will make very clear recommendations to ensure accurate data capture.

It so frustrating because it's such an opportunity. The Police should record both sex and self-identified gender (with an option given for none/not applicable for the latter). Instead there's this transparent desire to actively corrupt relevant and valuable data.

There's a number of things going on here that aren't fully clear.

Why are the Police ignoring the voluntary guidance?

Why was the guidance voluntary and not mandatory in the first place? Are there legal barriers to it being made mandatory? If so what are those?

Are all these men recorded as female purely because they say so or is it because they were able to easily obtain identity documents (passport, driving licence etc.) that state they are female?

It's an absolute mess.

This would be a good litmus test for Starmer as a former head of the CPS. I'd like to know the answer to what he would do and whether he could be more effective than the Tories.

I don't want another round of asking him what a woman is - I want to know the answer to specifics like this.

What concerns me about this, apart from everything, are the numbers. They may be only a small proportion of sexual assaults overall but for something that 'never happens' it's happening an awful lot. Nearly 500 over 4 years, from only partial results and not including trans/nb who may have had their sex recorded correctly or who weren't reported.