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Anarchists banned from London Anarchist Bookfair due to alleged transphobia

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Signalbox · 02/10/2023 11:23

Anyone interested in anarchist politics? Seems that one organisation (The Anarchist Communist Group (ACG)) has been banned from attending one of the main anarchist events of the year (The London Anarchist Bookfair). This was the event where Helen Steel was attacked by trans activists in 2017 for standing up for women handing out leaflets in relation to the intended GRA reforms. Seems that the ACG was formed when members split from another anarchist group (the Anarchist Federation (AF)) due to them (ACG) being critical of how Helen was treated. The AF had a presence at the Manchester Standing for Women event where masked activists harassed women and prevented them from meeting where they had originally planned.

Bookfair statement banning the ACG...
https://anarchistbookfair.london/regarding-acg-at-the-bookfair/

Links to Twitter...
https://twitter.com/BookfairLDN/status/1708579368170103019

Link to Manchester SFW event with AF flag...

Anarchists banned from London Anarchist Bookfair due to alleged transphobia
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Rudderneck · 02/10/2023 16:22

Anarchism has an interesting way of continually showing why it could never be a viable form of social organization, unless you really like Might is Right.

PorcelinaV · 02/10/2023 16:27

Everyone will be perfectly behaved in the communist utopia I'm sure.

No need for authority. No need for the police. And definitely no need for re-education camps.

Signalbox · 02/10/2023 16:37

Rudderneck · 02/10/2023 16:22

Anarchism has an interesting way of continually showing why it could never be a viable form of social organization, unless you really like Might is Right.

Whilst I agree that anarchism could never be a viable form of social organisation, these types of shenanigans are going on in almost every political organisation atm including our mainstream political parties. Trans activism has a way of causing chaos in almost every organisation it comes into contact with.

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RedToothBrush · 02/10/2023 16:44

Illegallyblonder · 02/10/2023 13:16

Lol at "I'm not sure they're doing anarchy right"

Proper anarchy would be barring them, but them coming anyway, having a punch up with ends up with them all arrested because they turn on the police.

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2023 16:53

RedToothBrush · 02/10/2023 16:44

Proper anarchy would be barring them, but them coming anyway, having a punch up with ends up with them all arrested because they turn on the police.

😁when anarchy becomes so mainstream the only way to properly rebel is to join the terfs.

BlackForestCake · 02/10/2023 16:58

I'm involved in a number of anarchist groups and the one thing that always stands out is how strongly authoritarian most of them actually are.

This is actually a long standing criticism of the anarchist movement: even if you try to organise without any kind of formal hierarchy, informal hierarchies develop instead, and then it is more difficult to change the people in charge.

Grammarnut · 02/10/2023 19:16

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2023 11:56

Mind you, not sold on this ACG group, either.

https://www.anarchistcommunism.org/aims-and-principles/

'It is not possible to abolish Capitalism without a revolution, which will arise out of class conflict. The ruling class must be completely overthrown to achieve anarchist communism. Because the ruling class will not relinquish power without their use of armed force, this revolution will be a time of violence as well as liberation.'

That's fairly standard revolutionary ideology. You do indeed have to overthrow the ruling class if you want to change things. Only problem is you then get another ruling class which will need overthrowing. Problem. Esp for anarchists.

FantasticElasticBand · 02/10/2023 19:30

Are they the People’s Front of Judaea? Or, the Judean People’s Front? Or, the Popular People’s Front of Judaea? I get so confused…

I want a tea towel.

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2023 19:55

Anarchist tea-towels don't actually dry the dishes...they leave them slightly wet. The horror!

IcakethereforeIam · 02/10/2023 20:02

Proper tea towels are theft.

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2023 20:12

In case anyone thought we were an autonomous collective.

You're fooling yourself!

We're living in a dishwashership.

A self-perpetuating autocrockery ...

Signalbox · 02/10/2023 20:27

I can feel a joke about anarchist plumbers and smashing the cistern coming on!

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LarkLane · 02/10/2023 20:28

I've gone down a rabbit hole reading A Note from the Turf War Zone
( See upthread)

Someone worried that perverted men will come into women’s safe areas is a fucking Nazi. Whereas some zitty three-week vegan studying all day wanking at Brighton University, claims they’re casting off the shackles of hierarchical society by tying their cock to their leg and wearing panties, they’re a hero ~Shit Wigs and Steroids, page 19 of pdf version.

Such a way with words!

TheMarzipanDildo · 02/10/2023 20:30

BlackForestCake · 02/10/2023 16:58

I'm involved in a number of anarchist groups and the one thing that always stands out is how strongly authoritarian most of them actually are.

This is actually a long standing criticism of the anarchist movement: even if you try to organise without any kind of formal hierarchy, informal hierarchies develop instead, and then it is more difficult to change the people in charge.

And all that Nietzschean superman stuff is beloved by anarchists and fascist dictators alike. A kind of individualist-authoritarianism.

TheMarzipanDildo · 02/10/2023 20:32

I do admire Helen steel though.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 02/10/2023 20:42

Seems fair, an anarchist got booted out of an anarchist group for not following the rules.

Signalbox · 02/10/2023 20:44

PaperWalkAndTalk · 02/10/2023 20:42

Seems fair, an anarchist got booted out of an anarchist group for not following the rules.

Sorry what rules are you talking about?
And who got booted out of an anarchist group?

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booksandbrooks · 02/10/2023 21:44

IcakethereforeIam · 02/10/2023 20:02

Proper tea towels are theft.

Brilliant Grin

BoJo50 · 04/10/2023 19:08

It's gone full circle crazy. Women's rights are now seen as fascist.
How did this lunacy hijack the left wing.

There must still be some sensible left wing folk around who believe in working class struggles. 🤔

BoJo50 · 04/10/2023 19:14

I consider myself left wing. I believe in working class struggles and fighting racism.

The new left wing seems hell bent on abandoning working class struggles in favour for attacking women who try and protect women's right and safe spaces.

Trans women deserve respect but they do not have the right to dominate biological women who want to protect women's rights.

When it comes to toilets men and women's toilets and also single cubicles for anyone who identifies as the opposite sex or even a different species.

BoJo50 · 04/10/2023 19:19

As long as people realise just because someone has deep voice and a beard they may actually identify as a lady. They may also be transpecies so may actually be a dog/camal/ or even a komodo dragon.

They may also be transobject so could also identify as a tent/ egg cup/ or a Garden fence.

If you disagree you are a hateful fascist.

New group should be called the AAR

Anarchists against reality.

Chersfrozenface · 04/10/2023 19:21

There must still be some sensible left wing folk around who believe in working class struggles.

I suppose there's the Communist Party of Britain which is, I believe, pretty solid on women's rights and gender ideology.

Not too sure about the "sensible left wing folk", though. All the self-professed Communists I've ever known have been total loons - don't know whether or not they were members of the CPB, mind.

IncomingTraffic · 04/10/2023 19:28

I’m with those who are just laughing at an anarchist organisation banning a group on the basis it isn’t following ‘The Rules’

it’s gloriously funny.

theDudesmummy · 04/10/2023 19:41

I really enjoyed reading that "Shit Wigs" pamphlet, thanks for the link!

BoJo50 · 05/10/2023 09:20

Yes shows how the anarchist movement has been hijacked by the lunatic fringe.

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