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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Manchester feminists?

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valadon68 · 28/09/2023 11:38

Is there a strong GC contingent in Manchester at all? We may be moving there. I get the sense that there's very vocal & uncompromising support for the 'gender critical = fascist' view in the city - hoping to be wrong. Do people know if there's still some balance - whether committed radfems or people who are just happy to chat about gender in an open-minded way? I've met lots of people where I currently am who don't necessarily hold GC views but have no issue with having a pleasant and uninhibited discussion on the topic, so none of this 'no debate' attitude, and think surely a big city will have more of the same. But a recent thread on Manchester Reddit with almost blanket hardcore anti-GC feeling is making me feel a bit apprehensive!

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RebelliousCow · 28/09/2023 16:24

Manchester has a very large gay male demographic, and a very large student population - and this will, undoubtedly, impact on attitudes towards women with gender critical perspectives. However, there are also fairly frequent GC events in the city even if they have to meet in secret. I don't live in Manchester, myself.

SecretShambles · 28/09/2023 16:54

Yes. There is a good community of gender critical feminists in Manchester with strong links to sex matters as one of the sex matters board members lives in Manchester.

IwantToRetire · 28/09/2023 16:58

There is a Manchester Resisters group listed on the Resisters United web site - https://resistersunited.org/

They are on twitter but their tweets are protected but it looks quite old so maybe not active?

EllasGuitar · 28/09/2023 17:08

There’s a Manchester group of womensrights.network too

JellySaurus · 28/09/2023 17:20

MakeMoreNoiseManc used to be very active. Haven't seen anything from them recently.

makemorenoisemanc.wixsite.com/mysite

Same @ on Instagram.

FKATondelayo · 28/09/2023 17:22

I met loads of Manchester ladies at the WPUK Feminism conference back in 2020 and they do have WRN/Resisters groups.

ZenNudist · 28/09/2023 17:34

Well I live in Manchester. I don't join any feminist groups. I am GC and I would say most of the people I meet are more GC than blindly supportive. I have friends who recommend the podcast on JKR, plenty of people not in favour of hormones/surgery on youngsters or men in women's prisons and sports.

I do move in a Catholic circle and so my dc's schools wouldn't start teaching men can be women or vice versa.

Even my friends with non binary / trans children are more sensible about it than uncritically supportive. Calm tolerance, no eye rolling, not ashamed but not trying to shove it down anyone's throats like David Tenant did recently. Not too much policing of pro nouns and I try to refer to their dc in the required way.

I'm more careful with the aged 30 plus (straight, not trans) ally types at work. Rainbow everything and you have to be careful what you say in case you get jumped on but I find I have less reason to chat to them nowadays.

Hopefully that sets your mind at ease.

Manchester is great btw!

valadon68 · 28/09/2023 17:44

Thanks everyone! @ZenNudist yes, you have reassured me 😊
Manchester seems like a brilliant place to live (with a stellar radical history). Loads to do, beautiful architecture, Peak District. Just comforting to know that there are allies about too.

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CervixSampler · 28/09/2023 19:17

There's a few of us on the outskirts quietly stickering, ribboning and raising GC kids.

soddingspiderseason · 28/09/2023 19:26

I'm in Manchester and as previous posters have said, it's a very TWAW city - the City Council has ratified this as it's official position, which does raise questions about whether they will continue to support single sex safe spaces etc. However, there's a lot of sensible GC women squirrelling away quietly in our respective spheres, and gently pushing back when it's safe to do so.

ZenNudist · 29/09/2023 00:14

Is Trafford less TWAW? There seems to be near constant pride stuff going on.

RebelliousCow · 29/09/2023 08:20

ZenNudist · 28/09/2023 17:34

Well I live in Manchester. I don't join any feminist groups. I am GC and I would say most of the people I meet are more GC than blindly supportive. I have friends who recommend the podcast on JKR, plenty of people not in favour of hormones/surgery on youngsters or men in women's prisons and sports.

I do move in a Catholic circle and so my dc's schools wouldn't start teaching men can be women or vice versa.

Even my friends with non binary / trans children are more sensible about it than uncritically supportive. Calm tolerance, no eye rolling, not ashamed but not trying to shove it down anyone's throats like David Tenant did recently. Not too much policing of pro nouns and I try to refer to their dc in the required way.

I'm more careful with the aged 30 plus (straight, not trans) ally types at work. Rainbow everything and you have to be careful what you say in case you get jumped on but I find I have less reason to chat to them nowadays.

Hopefully that sets your mind at ease.

Manchester is great btw!

To be fair, a catholic school has no immunity immunity to trans ideology and gendered thinking. I live in Liverpool which also has a large catholic population and many catholic schools- and trans ideology has found its way into most of them.

In fact, one all girls catholic school had a young trans identified male teacher who the girls wwere supposed to address as 'Miss' - and this person also ran the LGBTQ+ lunchtime club - which basically acted as a gateway to encourage girls into thinking they might be trans.

ZenNudist · 30/09/2023 09:38

@RebelliousCow that is not good. There's no way either the primary or secondary school my sons go to would have LGBTQ club! Mind you, I think that could be quite awkward at an all boys college where ds1 is.

There's a Catholic PSHE curriculum here. I've read it. It teaches about things the church doesn't agree with but explains these aren't in accordance with the teaching of the church. It's all very sensible.

We do have a girl I think in an all boys school. It's not a big deal. My son seems to be nicely GC managing an equal balance of tolerance and questioning.

We also have many non traditional families in the schools so they are very careful what they teach to not offend anyone.

Our priest teaches tolerance and acceptance and there's an occasional lgbt mass.

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