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NHS training on trans

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ArabellaScott · 27/09/2023 12:28

https://twitter.com/cool2btrans/status/1700206255480955029/photo/1

'I delivered my 6th virtual 1.5-hour trans awareness session (in a series of eight) for staff at Leicestershire Partnership NHS Trust yesterday'
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'I feel that trans awareness training should, ideally, be mandatory for all staff,'

Sex is shown here on a continuum/spectrum, with 'maleness' at one end, 'femaleness' at the other, and 'intersex' in between.

I cannot begin to comprehend how HCPs and medics are listening to this utter drivel. Nor that taxpayers are paying for it.

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endofthelinefinally · 27/09/2023 12:34

That is appalling on so many levels. How are the medical and nursing staff at least not complaining? Anyone with a smattering of biology can see that it is total nonsense.
I saw an article about the genderbread person actually published in a laboratory science professional journal a few years ago, as a serious paper intended to educate hospital pathology staff. Just how??? Those people all have science degrees. Astonishing.

Fenlandia · 27/09/2023 12:35

So much illogicality my head hurts. Sex and gender are different yet both on an axis of maleness to femaleness. Bisexual lumped in with asexual. Intersex, why of course.

ArabellaScott · 27/09/2023 12:37

It's like a ten year old got high instead of studying and made a Clipart graphic for their last-minute biology homework.

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Fenlandia · 27/09/2023 12:37

The winner of the "East Midlands Outstanding Female LGBTQIA+ Champion 2023 at the Women's Awards"...

twitter.com/cool2btrans/status/1706290540336054423

TapDancingEverySyllableFromEarToEar · 27/09/2023 12:38

It's just lies, isn't it? Having a Disorder of Sexual Development doesn't out you in the middle of femaleness or maleness. Neither does having short hair, or long hair, or wearing lippy or changing a car tyre move you from one end to the other.

ArabellaScott · 27/09/2023 12:38

'I was brought crashing down to earth after this glamorous evening though. While I received many compliments about my chocolate brown and gold evening dress, when my 12-year-old daughter saw it, she simply asked me "Why did you go dressed as a poo?" Kids!'

Hm.

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ArabellaScott · 27/09/2023 12:39

TapDancingEverySyllableFromEarToEar · 27/09/2023 12:38

It's just lies, isn't it? Having a Disorder of Sexual Development doesn't out you in the middle of femaleness or maleness. Neither does having short hair, or long hair, or wearing lippy or changing a car tyre move you from one end to the other.

It does manage to be enormously offensive to many different groups at once. I guess that's what 'inclusive' means these days.

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caringcarer · 27/09/2023 12:44

This makes me so angry. The money should be used to fund nurses.

Rightsraptor · 27/09/2023 13:05

Female LGBTQ+ Champion?

Katie Neeves was/is a photographer, iirc. Maybe skilled in the use of filters, too.

I have a dim memory of someone I think was Neeves discussing the 'delights' of wearing female underwear at one of their 'training' sessions. I wouldn't imagine that would form part of online training, though, as such speakers wouldn't have the pleasure of watching their female audience squirm with embarrassment and distress.

RethinkingLife · 27/09/2023 13:42

Can anybody locate how much is spent on training sessions to ensure that NHS staff know how to communicate with people with boring, common needs related to vision loss, hearing loss etc.? The people that they come into contact with on a very regular basis?

ArabellaScott · 27/09/2023 13:55

You know, if this were a session on 'how to communicate with people with dysphoria' or how to treat people with delusions, that would be fine and worthwhile.

What gets me is that this is a person who claims that sex is a continuum who is proposing to educate people who in all likelihood are far better qualified and educated than he is.

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GrandmaMazur · 27/09/2023 14:00

FFS. It’s SO stupid. How do healthcare staff not just laugh or say ‘you’re talking absolute nonsense’?

Pratincole · 27/09/2023 14:03

There was a speaker at Let Women Speak at Hyde Park last Sunday who had some 'interesting' things to say about the healthcare trust in Leicestershire - like maternity services have been starved of funds and are now inadequate (My apologies to all concerned if I have remembered that incorrectly)

willingtolearn · 27/09/2023 14:05

Healthcare staff are aware that any criticism /questioning would be viewed very negatively and if they continued it may lead to a disciplinary meeting.

'Training' by it's very definition is not about discussion - it's about you learning to do something in a particular way.

GrandmaMazur · 27/09/2023 14:11

willingtolearn · 27/09/2023 14:05

Healthcare staff are aware that any criticism /questioning would be viewed very negatively and if they continued it may lead to a disciplinary meeting.

'Training' by it's very definition is not about discussion - it's about you learning to do something in a particular way.

Oh I do know it isn’t easy but if everybody just said no to all this nonsense then maybe everyone could stop having to endure it!

Gettingbysomehow · 27/09/2023 14:16

I've worked as a medical professional for 43 years and have never had a single session on transgender anything.
Good thing too because I'd be off sick.

Feckedupbundle · 27/09/2023 15:46

Yes, Leicestershire maternity services are under the spot light currently,for being poor and actually unsafe.
As someone who has had a fair amount of experience of Leicestershire Health Authority,I can honestly say,that there are a million better ways of spending the money that this 'training' cost.

DiabolicalFinial · 28/09/2023 00:26

8 sessions of 1.5 hours each? What a waste of money on unscientific, nonsensical, self-obsessed shit!

I have spent enormous amounts of time as a patient in various hospitals, and there isn’t one department that couldn’t put the money paid out for that shit-show to use for covering actual needs.

EggTheParrot · 28/09/2023 01:20

My current trust (NW England leaving soon thank God) we have to do trans training as part of mandatory training and you HAVE to state pro nouns preference on the form for info on ID badge, there is no option for none or individual ones. I tried and was told I had to choose

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