Overlap of those who are GC on social media and are also Russell Brand supporters.

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I'm feeling quite discomfited by the number of people I follow on IG due to their GC content who have also now revealed themselves to be RB supporters/defenders.

I can't get my head around how I can so passionately agree with their beliefs on gender bollocks yet be so opposed on the Brand issue when both issues boil down to protecting the rights and safety of women and children.

Of course I don't expect anyone to share all my beliefs but it's just such a stark contrast. I hate feeling in some way aligned with conspiracy theory-spouting rape apologists 🤢 .

Anyone else noticed this?

The point about letting the criminal justice system do its business is an approprite one. Nobody is suggesting that Brand has not done abusive things to women. He clearly has, and has plenty of form for actually telling people what he has done. His time has come and he will now have to face the consequences.

What people are objecting to, from what I can gather, is the trial by social/media and the endless people virtue signalling their new found contempt - when only a few years ago they were all over him. It forms part of the same pattern of villification which is meted out to anyone who finds themself suddenly "on the wrong side of history". And peole should be wary of that; very wary of that.

Sweetie, headlines don't normally reflect the writing, especially not on the internet.

You always have to read the full article before you respond.

Nah uh! You don’t have to read any more than the headline of your aim is to post fuckwittery on a feminist chat thread!

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In a healthy society we should see a range of views.

I have seen GC twitter accounts be fully supportive of Brand, have a nuanced view that it shouldn't be trial by media because that undermines justice (but are fervent pro-women getting justice), other nuanced views which say that it's not about Brand and actually about institutionalised attitudes to women and don't expect Brand to face any justice (and tend to be ok with that in the wider interest) and I've seen accounts be full on Brand is a rapist and should go to jail and the BBC / ITV should be abolished as a result of the revelations because they all support Jimmy Saville.

So I don't think there is an issue.

You should be following a range of accounts with lots of different perspectives (including ones that sometimes aren't as great as you'd like). If you are only seeing a narrow selection of views you need to adjust your follows.

And that's it for me. It's about your follows rather than 'what GC people think about Brand'.

Maybe it's because gender critical, rather than being a belief, is an absence of belief in a particular ideology. People from all across the political spectrum can have that absence of belief.

it was the subheading, not the lede, and it was unambiguous, sweetie.

Did you read the contributions of the other feminist identifying gender critical people I mentioned? I’m informed you always have to read the full thread before responding.

People each have their own position/ persepctive. I think tryin to tar everyone with the same brush is a pointless and futile activity. Just the same as with suggesting everyone who has a major issue with gender identity theory is rabidly right wing. They are not. In fact most Briotish people with such an issue, have that isssue becaue they have come from left activist circles, or from the women's movement. But even if they are naturally socially conservative, or have become more so with age -so what?

One of those you mentioned, you explicitly said had spoken about the issue on TV. I have not listened to anything there because I have hearing issues that make TV a disproportionate amount of effort. Given your own difficulties with reading comprehension, you can hardly judge. On the subject of judging, Phillimore is a lawyer. They're usually very keen on respecting the legal system. It's a job pre-requisite. It's surprising if a lawyer doesn't advise caution.

Rosetta's general attitude is rather more tilted to your side of things than mine. She's frequently criticised for centring the wishes of men and male people who don't identify as men, so it will totally fail to surprise me if she takes a position I disagree with on anything, including Brand.

If you're not claiming responsibility for her tweets, then why should I?