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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Again

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Brainworm · 17/09/2023 10:23

Was recently pleasantly surprised by an NHS form linked to pensions that required sex declaration with two options (male or female) . The context meant that gender identity was irrelevant to the purpose of the form and so, in line with GDPR, wasn't sought.

I just set out to complete a 'short on line survey' about my recent mammogram experience and it asked about my age, gender, and religion.

The gender options were: female, male, prefer not to say, other.

I presume they don't need to ask about sex, as the routine mammogram screening programme the survey is linked to is female only.

I imagine the survey is seeking to find out how they are doing with supporting minority groups with their mammogram experience - which is a good thing in my view. Breast screening for females is important and if things can be done differently for those with religious or gender beliefs to help them overcome barriers, that's great.

BUT, the NHS should know that 'gender' is a misnomer. What are they referring to? If it's sex, then say sex, if it's gender identity, say gender identity.

For the 'religion' item, they listed a number of religions and included atheist, no religion and other.

For GI, surely they should include no gender identity as an option also?

I continue to be flabbergasted that the TRAs have orchestrated a situation whereby distinguishing or decoupling sex from gender and acknowledging that gender identity isn't a universal phenomenon is deemed unacceptable.

Madness!

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/09/2023 11:34

It's enraging isn't it.
Just look at the madness at the GMC - the regulatory body who have removed all references to the word mother from their maternity & women from their menopause policies. If you can see the comments below - over 2,500 incandescent responses!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/16/general-medical-council-removed-mothers-maternity-policy/

GMC removes all references to ‘mother’ from maternity document

General Medical Council also updates its internal policy on menopause to remove mentions of women

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/16/general-medical-council-removed-mothers-maternity-policy

Brainworm · 17/09/2023 14:04

I remain confident that this Stonewall / Mermaids/ TRA strategy will eventually fail and is not helping their cause.

If TRAs advocated for supplementing the term 'women' with other terms that helped those who are distressed by, or feel compelled to reject, their natal sex I expect this would work, longer term. NHS documents could refer to menopausal / pregnant women and people with varying gender identities (or however they would want it to be phrased).

I continue to be amazed that TRAs have managed to get buy in from major organisations to accept that the beliefs and identities of the majority should be swept under the carpet in order to centre those of another group. Especially as there is no reason at all why they shouldn't co-exist.

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IcakethereforeIam · 17/09/2023 14:45

They had an article about this happening in the GMC in the DM. Iirc, at the bottom they had a pertinent quote from Helen Joyce and the GMC answering a question that hadn't been asked.

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