BBC profiles a GP who is also a drag queen in their spare time

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https://twitter.com/bbcsoutheast/status/1700130399647605041

Did anyone else see this? At least they haven’t got a sexualised or misogynistic drag name I suppose.

In other drag queen news, Democrats are now being spanked by them.

Honestly, I don't think it's enough, and they need to do more to prove their commitment to diversity.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-mayor-spanked-rages-at-libs-of-tiktok

I would care if my doctor had a hobby that was taking the piss out of women.

I suspect many would complain if their doctor did comedy stand up in the evenings and had a routine they found very distasteful. eg https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10506277/This-Going-Hurt-author-Adam-Kay-sang-vile-songs-Downs-syndrome-baby.html

@SuperNewMe

You don't believe in "woman face" . Do you believe in black face?

so bored with drag queens and the beeb . The Bbc are horrible misognists. Hate hate hate them.

I would care if my doctor had a hobby that was taking the piss out of women
That's your opinion though. Not everyone's.
I see it as people dressing up and expressing themselves.
Each to their own.
So no, drag doesn't offend me as I don't see it as taking the piss - so wouldn't care if my doctor did drag in his spare time. All I care about is whether they're a good doctor and good at their job.
I'm not getting into the whole comparing blackface to "woman face" as I've seen enough people say it's offensive to compare the two and I tend to agree with them.

"I see it as people dressing up" .... as?

Dressing up as women and expressing themselves.
There you go.
Thought that went without saying but have spelled it out for you.
We differ because you see it as people laughing at you, I see it as people wanting to dress up, explore a more feminine side - they don't even say that they are women, it's a character, an act, but still some people have a problem as they see it as a personal attack.

But they're not dressing up as women though. They look nothing like women. They look like men in drag, dressed up as a character in the genre 'Drag'. It has its own culture and sub-cultures.

Some of those sub-cultures link across to other sub-cultures that really aren't what you'd call family entertainment, and a lot of people in the genre themselves prefer it to be considered strictly 18+.

The BBC never explains nor explores this.

I’d never see a GP like that. I think they shouldn’t have visible tattoos on show. It’s so unprofessional. I remember I had my lungs listened to by this young doctor - he stuck the stethoscope down my top with out warning, which felt far too unceremonious and intimate, and I noticed he had a pierced tongue- it really gave the impression that it was ‘just a job’ for him to pay for his party habit. I also got the sense that he might be coming down from or actually on something too. I don’t think I would have clocked it if I wasn’t thrown by the piercing. Doctors should want to be doctors. It’s off putting if you think they’d rather be doing something else.

@SuperNewMe

Is this badly made up face 'a feminine side'? Deliberately smudged mascara, poorly lined lips. Lace fronted wig that's untrimmed.

I know all these are intentional because he new he was being filmed for BBC and would have made the most effort.

The she/her pronouns and female names (often puns of how slutty or dowdy women are) would say these are at least women adjacent in their characters.

I get why you don't like the term black face so I wont expect you to agree with the comparison- but I dont think the black and white minstrels were trying to convince the audience they were actually black people pratting about on stage.

They look like men in drag who are taking the piss out of women. Bad make up, comedy breasts, high voice (or low brash voice), female clothes.

For someone talking about the rich cultural history of drag - you'd think you would reflect on why they were called "female impersonators" for a long time.

Threads like this are the problem!!!! FFS. Fucking mumsnet sometimes. Who gives a shiny shit what he does in his spare.

Absolutely. On the rare occasion I visit my GP I just want to pee in a cup, have my smear, get a prescription for antibiotics etc - I literally couldn’t give a shit what their pronouns are, whether they’re an ally or if they marched at Pride.

Just listen to my symptoms and act accordingly.

@hittingtheshelves
Threads like this are the problem!!!! FFS. Fucking mumsnet sometimes. Who gives a shiny shit what he does in his spare
I'm just catching up on the latest posts and we have piercings and (shock, horror) TATTOOS now?!
It's laughable, it really is.
So fucking what if they have a visible tattoo, or a piercing?!
It doesn't affect their job! If the doctor was shoving stethoscope down without warning, it wasnt the tattoo that made him.do it for crying out loud.
You could get that from a doctor in your preferred slicked back brown hair, buttoned up shirt, ironed chinos and shiny shoes.
Or whatever you see as "proper" way to look.
I think all comes down to what people want others to look like at the end of the day doesn't it?
No dressing up in drag, even in your own time, no tattoos on show (how uncouth) , no "funny" piercings. 🙄
It all seems tied together.
Policing what others can and can't, shouldn't be looking like.

If what he does in his spare time isn’t worth a shiny shit, how has he managed to get a profile about it on the BBC?

What is it about drag that worthy of this compared to a GP who runs marathons, or does knitting, or paints still life for a hobby?

This one is, er, interesting, for its emphasis on foot fetishism.

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it, but the audience member is possibly going to be traumatised.

Um, what?! You got all that from a tongue piercing?! Are you quite ok? That's a LOT of projection.

Personally I couldn't give a shiny shite if my doctor has blue hair and neck tattoos and webbed feet, provided they listen to me and offer decent treatment. Your doctor is a human being with a real life of their own, and hobbies and passions, not just a clinician robot.

it really gave the impression that it was ‘just a job’

It is just a job. Like any job. They are allowed to do the job for the money to pay the bills-like everyone else-nurses, teachers, bankers, actors, anyone.

Nah. They can F off with all this ‘whole self to work’ bs. I don’t strip off and let any random person grope me or stick objects inside me. Doctors need to be aware of the trust patients have in them and their potential to traumatise their patients if they get it wrong. We come to see them because we are scared we are ill. That’s a huge responsibility in their hands and they should be seen to take it seriously. If it’s ‘just a job’ they should do something else where they don’t have that trust. They need to be very sober and seem like a much more responsible than average person - also unflappable, neutral, but caring. Not some bloody clown who is desperate to clock off and go out partying.

Also, I could tell in that young doctors eyes that he was on/coming down from something along with the unceremonious way he just stuck his hand down my top. He was unprofessional and the tongue piercing said it all.

What annoyed me in the BBC article was the crap about bringing his authentic self into work. He's got a rainbow flag and a trans flag on his desk and introduces himself with his first name

I'm fine with calling a doctor by their first name, but as a GC woman I could not 'bring my authentic self' into his surgery because I would know he’s bought into this ideology wholesale, despite being an actual doctor who went to medical school and qualified and presumably (one would hope) knows the difference between the sexes.

So how is it OK for him to feel 'seen' with his kink, and not me, as the patient in this situation, with my illness or worry - the thing the focus should actually be on?

They're not dressing up as women. They're dressing up as a hyper-sexualised parody of women. How many women do you know who look like that?

And what is feminine about drag queens? Enormous fake breasts, ridiculous clownish make up, offensive misogynistic jokes about women. That's not a feminine side, it's a particularly misogynistic male view of what a woman is.

And your comment about dressing up as women implies that you think there is a specific way that women should dress. How does someone dress as a woman in your opinion? If a man wanted to dress like me (a woman) he wouldn't even have to change his clothes.

I'm not into HCPs 'bringing their whole selves to work' - I agree with PPs that they should centre patients, not their own identities. OTOH, what he does outside work is his own business, as long as it's legal.

We can't have it both ways: we're outraged by TRAs wanting to cancel Roisin Murphy or Glinner, yet there are people on this thread saying that a doctor can't choose to have a hobby that we happen to disagree with. That's cancel culture too.

I don't like Drag Queens because I find them mysogynistic.

In my earlier post, I said that I don't like the 'bring your authentic self to work" crap. A Dr should be professional and centre the patient, not themselves.

I also think that the article is part of the BBC obsession with DQ. It's unlikely that they would have a similar report about a DR with a more mainstream hobby.

But that doesn't mean I want the GP cancelled. I don't want him to bring trans bullshit to work but I wouldn't want him to lose his job over it.

I wouldn't feel comfortable with him because he would probably think that I am a bigot. I would choose to ask for an appointment with a different GP.

That is different from going on social media and calling for all his patients to ask for another GP or calling for the practice to sack him - those actions would be comparable to TRA behaviour towards those they deem to be transphobic.