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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Voices of Irish women on the margins

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Forwarder · 03/09/2023 13:44

Interviews with women who have spent time in jail or homeless hostels in Dublin.

These are the women expected to validate trans identifying men's fantasies. Sometimes as their punchbags, verbal and physical.

Sorry if already a thread on this. But when MRAs say that self ID is working well in Ireland, they are choosing to ignore these women. Many of the women are drug users or petty criminals in for short sentences. So perhaps they are acceptable collateral damage?

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2008450/13427852

S3E7 Transgender Special - Paddy's Podcast

A special edition on the transgender issue. This Pocast brings together interviews from podcasts over the last year with women who have shared prisons and hostels with transgender persons.

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2008450/13427852

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lily444 · 04/09/2023 09:39

Yes definitely worth listening to, how have we not been hearing about this before now?
I found it quite depressing, do these women really not matter in our society?

Farmageddon · 04/09/2023 09:56

lily444 · 04/09/2023 09:39

Yes definitely worth listening to, how have we not been hearing about this before now?
I found it quite depressing, do these women really not matter in our society?

I agree, it's depressing but not surprising. This ideology is such a luxury belief system - pushed mostly by people who know well they will never have to deal with the harsh reality of sharing a cell or a hostel with a male person claiming to be female.
I despair at how apathetic the Irish media and government is about this - it's like they are sticking their fingers in their ears and hoping it will all blow over. At the same time they are eyeing up the UK and waiting to see what happens in the next few years.
But they will never take a stand against this, it will only ever be 'fixed' in years to come with a half arsed mea culpa...

DeanElderberry · 04/09/2023 09:57

I have posted links to Paddy's podcast several times over the last ten months (that's how long I've been on MN) and so have other people.

He was a regular broadcaster on RTE for many years. He's fantastic, but it's sad that he has had to 'privatise' himself to speak truth.

miri1985 · 04/09/2023 12:23

Thats the thing with self ID isn't it, theres never any evidence of any problems because its then counted as violence/bad behaviour by women.

Lack of evidence isn't evidence that nothings happening, its evidence that they snuck in legislation that would allow them to not collect evidence.

lily444 · 04/09/2023 14:20

off topic but presume you are Irish? apologies if I'm wrong...
I want to attend Let Women Speak in Dublin later this month but am very nervous about going. I am worried it will have a negative impact on my standing at work.

Forwarder · 04/09/2023 15:43

Not Irish myself @lily444 but concerned at what is happening so close to home. And irate at the way Ireland is held up as poster child for the genderborg. Homeless women getting slapped across the room in their hostel being what Leo Varadkar says "generally works well"

Are you public sector? Perhaps you can attend the rally as a supporter but not actually speak.

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Forwarder · 04/09/2023 15:55

DeanElderberry · 04/09/2023 09:57

I have posted links to Paddy's podcast several times over the last ten months (that's how long I've been on MN) and so have other people.

He was a regular broadcaster on RTE for many years. He's fantastic, but it's sad that he has had to 'privatise' himself to speak truth.

The BBC is no better

And most mainstream journalism now is regurgitated press releases. Seeking out diverse voices seems alien to most journalists.

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Forwarder · 04/09/2023 15:59

So with trans identifying male prisoners the authorities go through a charade of pretending to house them in the women's section. The paedophile in Limerick jail allowed to verbally abuse women inmates and staff with his filth. 'Cos poor thing would have a hard time in the men's wing.

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lily444 · 04/09/2023 16:43

I do contract work for an organisation that is partly state funded. hoping to be made permanent soon.
possibly I've just spent too much time on twitter but I am worried about being exposed to my employer as a TERF. it is one hundred per cent captured.
i was not planning on speaking at all. i suppose it should be ok to just turn up and listen....

DeanElderberry · 04/09/2023 16:51

Sunglasses, covid mask, clothes your colleagues haven't seen, hat . . .

daft to have to think that way, but there are some very odd people out there and the media is completely captured. I won't be there (except in spirit) but I'll send supportive vibes from Down The Country.

lily444 · 04/09/2023 19:19

Good advice, thanks a mil 😊

DeanElderberry · 05/09/2023 09:42

I've just listened - most of it was on his earlier podcasts, but the interview with the woman from Parkgate Street was new, with her account of the tiny woman being assaulted in the hostel, and gosh he was being quite explicit with using the word 'he' and not censoring his interviewees. I hope his role over decades in letting women speak gets some acknowledgement somewhere, sometime. He is a hero. The decades he has spent building trust really show in the freedom with which people speak to him.

I found it interesting to see how genuine shock and outrage can get a man who has spent his life deliberately not editorialising or extrapolating begin to edge close to just that.

Genesis1v27 · 05/09/2023 18:48

Paddy O'Gorman is a national treasure for giving air to voices that "polite society" would rather not hear. I'll give that episode a listen later.

Incidentally, O'Gorman said on Twitter that he will be at the Let Women Speak event in Dublin on the 16th - see the posts here: https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1697659295398031632

siucra · 05/09/2023 20:01

I will be attending the Let Women Speak rally in Merrion Square. I will be going on my own but looking forward to being among like-minded women. Let’s be brave and all go. Safety in numbers, plus the more who go, the more emboldened all of will be.

Wanderingowl · 06/09/2023 08:11

That horrible misogynist Rory O Neill had a go at him on Twitter the other day and had his arse handed to him. Seems he really doesn't like it when people have the "receipts" he asked for.

lily444 · 06/09/2023 12:20

Great 😊 I hope lots of women attend.

TheSandgroper · 07/09/2023 13:49

@Forwarder Thank you for the link. I was horrified and entertained at the same time. The straight talking of the women was wonderful. But, oh, the situations they have been put into.

And fair play to himself for having the wit to find where the stories are. He must have enormous patience.

I will listen to more of him.

KnittingDiva · 07/09/2023 14:33

Paddy has also been suffering a verbal beating on Twitter from the man known as 'PantiBliss' for doing what Paddy has always done in giving a voice to the truly most marginalised. Rory (aka Panti) laughed at Paddy for being the guy talking to losers on the dole queues (Paddy did this for years on his radio show). So much for the 'bekind' progressive left!

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