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Suella Braverman statement about police behaviour and TRA police officer response

240 replies

Truthlikeness · 03/09/2023 08:47

I was heartened to see the letter to policing leaders published by the Home Secretary yesterday, reminding them of the importance of remaining politically neutral. She included reference to the heavy handed tactics used against GC women and their failure to take action against violent TRA threats. She also described the Progress flag as 'symbolising highly contested ideologies'.

Full letter here - https://twitter.com/suellabraverman/status/1697905696145092684?s=46&t=qrlGvkcRV2VhASm_7kkOnw

And the response from a serving police officer - rather neatly illustrating the need for the letter in the first place. I don't see how that can result in anything other than dismissal.

https://twitter.com/wearefaircop/status/1698034987826614582?s=46&t=qrlGvkcRV2VhASm_7kkOnw

https://twitter.com/wearefaircop/status/1698034987826614582?s=46&t=qrlGvkcRV2VhASm_7kkOnw

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FrancescaContini · 03/09/2023 09:13

I don’t like SueEllen at all but she’s spot on here. Was the response from a serving police officer? 😮

DiabolicalFinial · 03/09/2023 09:18

Yes - the ‘Seven Pound Sadie’ Twitter/X account is run by a serving police officer. He is very proud of his tweets and fixated on Harry/We are fair cop.

Faffertea · 03/09/2023 09:22

They just can’t stop themselves can they? The victim mentality is so entrenched they can’t see a concept such as impartiality in policing as anything other than an attack. It’s complete capitulation or you’re the enemy.

I don’t know what the rules are for serving Police Officers posting on their personal social media pages but I would have thought at the very least this requires investigating and a formal warning about impartiality because if this is their position they clearly can’t separate the professional from the personal properly so can’t do their job.

FrancescaContini · 03/09/2023 09:29

I’m wondering about the entry level requirements / qualifications for policing, never mind social media rules. This one doesn’t understand the meaning of “impartiality”.

Genesis1v27 · 03/09/2023 09:30

All very positive, if it is enforced.

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Thingybob · 03/09/2023 09:32

Yes - the ‘Seven Pound Sadie’ Twitter/X account is run by a serving police officer. He is very proud of his tweets and fixated on Harry/We are fair cop.

Seven Pound Sadie denies that they are a serving police officer but Harry believes they are.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/09/2023 09:32

OperationLetThemSpeak in full flow I see. Concerning that senior officers in the Leics Police appear so willing to enable this type of behaviour from a serving police officer.

FrancescaContini · 03/09/2023 09:34

“Declaration of war” oh do fuck off

FroodwithaKaren · 03/09/2023 09:38

Ah. So that police officer confirms in fact, in a mouthful of obscenity and violent ideation:

The police force has been successfully captured and politicised
It is biased and working for one side not just with bias but actively AGAINST other people
This is a good thing
Challenging this is a 'declaration of war'.

Government, please respond. You're going to need a bigger boat.

IwantToRetire · 03/09/2023 14:58

This is the official Government announcement https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-secretary-orders-review-into-political-activism-in-police

And includes:

The HMICFRS review has been asked to cover:

  • policies and processes that go further than, or contravene, obligations set out in the Equality Act 2010, and how those impact operational decision making
  • the quality and neutrality of associated training provided to implement such policies and processes, and by which organisation(s) this is delivered
  • the selection process for groups that are consulted on revisions to policy or process, how decisions are made on which policies and processes are selected for amendment, how the views expressed by those groups are balanced against others, and what consideration is given to other groups that may be impacted as a result
  • the involvement of staff networks in the development of policies and processes, and the use of police resources and time dedicated to such networks and whether they are involved in contested political matters
  • communications with the public on these issues, including social media
The Home Secretary has requested that the report is published by the end of March 2024, and is part of her drive to see more common sense policing that will see police spending their time wisely and getting the basics right.

Home Secretary orders review into political activism in police

Inspectorate commissioned to look at police impartiality in landmark review.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-secretary-orders-review-into-political-activism-in-police

TeenEyeroll · 03/09/2023 20:02

Its a great letter.

MargotBamborough · 03/09/2023 22:26

That letter is a great example of the shit sandwich technique being deployed.

whenindoubtgotothelibrary · 03/09/2023 22:39

It's a good letter.

ArabeIIaScott · 03/09/2023 23:11

I am actually, genuinely shocked. How the fuck could this person get away with that?

ArabeIIaScott · 03/09/2023 23:18

Excellent letter from Braverman. And good to hear there will be a review.

ArabeIIaScott · 03/09/2023 23:20

One of the comments is sort of funny:

'We’re not a totalitarian state yet. If police officers want to dance at pride marches or take the knee to support action against racism they should do so without your interference.'

Presumably the first sentence is the ambition, and the second lays out the means to achieve said ambition?

RhymesWithTangerine · 03/09/2023 23:21

Presumably the first sentence is the ambition, and the second lays out the means to achieve said ambition?

Lol.

DojaPhat · 03/09/2023 23:57

She's definitely got my vote!!

imed · 04/09/2023 07:16

Wow.. great stuff SB!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/09/2023 07:42

IwantToRetire · 03/09/2023 14:58

This is the official Government announcement https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-secretary-orders-review-into-political-activism-in-police

And includes:

The HMICFRS review has been asked to cover:

  • policies and processes that go further than, or contravene, obligations set out in the Equality Act 2010, and how those impact operational decision making
  • the quality and neutrality of associated training provided to implement such policies and processes, and by which organisation(s) this is delivered
  • the selection process for groups that are consulted on revisions to policy or process, how decisions are made on which policies and processes are selected for amendment, how the views expressed by those groups are balanced against others, and what consideration is given to other groups that may be impacted as a result
  • the involvement of staff networks in the development of policies and processes, and the use of police resources and time dedicated to such networks and whether they are involved in contested political matters
  • communications with the public on these issues, including social media
The Home Secretary has requested that the report is published by the end of March 2024, and is part of her drive to see more common sense policing that will see police spending their time wisely and getting the basics right.

i shall read the report next march with interest

from the letter

it is worth remembering that silent prayer, in itself, is not unlawful

my mind is boggling at what prompted that reminder

fabmaccawhackythumbsaloft · 04/09/2023 07:48

That ONE officer out of 145,000!

Most officers I know will welcome telling the woke fraternity to piss off and welcome getting back to policing instead of refereeing ridiculous bloody arguments

FroodwithaKaren · 04/09/2023 08:00

One officer, shouting a lot of twonk on Twitter and getting into the media however, is going to cast grubby public perception on the other 144,999. Which is one of Braverman's points. One twit can cause a hell of a lot of damage, and the public are going to rightfully wonder wtf happens at the police if that person is a part of it and using their job to further their interesting agenda and views, and the police let them crack on like this instead of loudly and publicly rejecting it.

It's somewhat like the 'nice TW friend nothing to do with the raving lunatics' argument: the fact is that the raving lunatics are the ones with the media and political control, and cannot be nicely ignored and allowed to get on with their machinations for fear of upsetting a quiet, normal mate. In fact you'd think the quiet, normal mate would be part of a group saying ffs, no, not in our name, this is not a trans thing, this is a misogynistic extremist thing. But never happens.

And sadly in fact, no, it's not just one. That twit on Twitter has not been the one and only copper on duty at every incident where cops have stood by and watched women being battered, or lifted a woman for daring to state factual heresy against the Faith. Or worked at CPS trying to work out how to make a prosecution stick, or ordered the painting of the cars and the flags and the dancing at Pride. This goes right to the very top. The police have been effectively politically captured and the government have a huge, fucking mess to sort out. And I have no sympathy because we were writing to them and shouting about this from almost a decade ago. They've let this happen.

Labour et al would have let it happen a lot faster and helped it on its way with enthusiasm.

FroodwithaKaren · 04/09/2023 08:03

IwantToRetire · 03/09/2023 14:58

This is the official Government announcement https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-secretary-orders-review-into-political-activism-in-police

And includes:

The HMICFRS review has been asked to cover:

  • policies and processes that go further than, or contravene, obligations set out in the Equality Act 2010, and how those impact operational decision making
  • the quality and neutrality of associated training provided to implement such policies and processes, and by which organisation(s) this is delivered
  • the selection process for groups that are consulted on revisions to policy or process, how decisions are made on which policies and processes are selected for amendment, how the views expressed by those groups are balanced against others, and what consideration is given to other groups that may be impacted as a result
  • the involvement of staff networks in the development of policies and processes, and the use of police resources and time dedicated to such networks and whether they are involved in contested political matters
  • communications with the public on these issues, including social media
The Home Secretary has requested that the report is published by the end of March 2024, and is part of her drive to see more common sense policing that will see police spending their time wisely and getting the basics right.

Halleluia.

Except this needs a very firm hand, or will be made to take years and be constantly edited and supervised and controlled by the lobby who created the issue in the first place.

And it isn't just a review that's needed, it's a full blown bloody inquiry, with the civil service, education, LAs and the NHS in scope as well as the police.