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Whistleblower vindicated after claiming St. Louis transgender clinic hastily prescribed hormone drugs to kids

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Helleofabore · 25/08/2023 09:11

The NY Times has apparently been doing a follow up on Jamie Reed’s statements, particularly because she was reported by some to be lying.

The NY Post (not paywalled) reported it as:

Explosive claims that a Missouri children’s transgender clinic was hastily prescribing hormone drugs to some young patients, including those with psychiatric issues, have been corroborated — some seven months after a whistleblower first came forward”

https://nypost.com/2023/08/23/st-louis-transgender-clinic-hastily-prescribed-hormone-drugs-to-kids-report/

The times article is in archive sites

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/23/health/transgender-youth-st-louis-jamie-reed.html

And says:

Ms. Reed’s claims thrust the clinic between warring factions. Missouri’s attorney general, a Republican, opened an investigation, and lawmakers in Missouri and other states trumpeted her allegations when they passed a slew of bans on gender treatments for minors. L.G.B.T.Q. advocates have pointed to parents who disputed her account in local news reports and to a Washington University investigation that determined her claims were “unsubstantiated.”

The reality was more complex than what was portrayed by either side of the political battle, according to interviews with dozens of patients, parents, former employees and local health providers, as well as more than 300 pages of documents shared by Ms. Reed.

Some of Ms. Reed’s claims could not be confirmed, and at least one included factual inaccuracies. But others were corroborated, offering a rare glimpse into one of the 100 or so clinics in the United States that have been at the center of an intensifying fight over transgender rights.

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With its psychologists overbooked, the clinic relied on external therapists, some with little experience in gender issues, to evaluate the young patients’ readiness for hormonal medications. Doctors prescribed hormones to patients who had obtained such approvals, even adolescents whose medical histories raised red flags. Some of these patients later stopped identifying as transgender, and received little to no support from the clinic after doing so.”

Unwanted outcomes and regrets happen in every branch of medicine, but several clinics around the world have reported challenges similar to those in St. Louis. Pediatric gender medicine is a nascent specialty, and few studies have tracked how patients fare in the long term, making it difficult for doctors to judge who is likely to benefit.

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Jamie and a nurse from the clinic Ms Hamon, began having sessions with the ER department to explain their work at the gender clinic.

At the trainings, E.R. staff shared concerns about their own experiences with their young transgender patients, which Ms. Hamon later relayed to her team and university administrators.

”The E.R. staff, she wrote in an email, had been seeing more transgender adolescents experiencing mental health crises, “to the point where they said they at least have one TG patient per shift.””

They aren’t sure why patients aren’t required to continue in counseling if they are continuing hormones,” Ms. Hamon added. And they were concerned that “no one is ever told no.”

Meaning that ER Departments were getting an unexplained increase in presentations from the clinic’s patients when the treatments were supposedly working well. This really does start to put pressure on all those people telling the world that affirming only treatment significantly improves mental health.

Whistleblower vindicated after claiming St. Louis transgender clinic hastily prescribed hormone drugs to kids

Jamie Reed, 42, a former case worker, came forward in February with damning allegations that the Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital was doling out the hormone…

https://nypost.com/2023/08/23/st-louis-transgender-clinic-hastily-prescribed-hormone-drugs-to-kids-report/

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ArabeIIaScott · 25/08/2023 09:41

Thanks, good to see.

Fukuraptor · 25/08/2023 09:45

I know that there's likely to be variation on availability throughout the states but Abigail Shrier's book "Irreversible Damage" and some of the detransition accounts I have teens able to get cross sex hormones on demand on an informed consent basis as soon as they turn 18. At university health clinics and through planned Parenthood without psychological support.

I had the impression it was all of a bit of a free for all, at least in some states.

I'm glad it's being reported and hope people will take note.

This crap isn't in the best healthcare interests of trans identifying teens whether they desist or persist in their trans gender identity as adults. It's really shit.

Ofcourseshecan · 25/08/2023 10:02

Thank goodness this has been reported in the NY Post. The NY Times, which I think used to have a better reputation, now seems totally captured, as bad as the Guardian. A pity if most of the once-reputable liberal/ leftish newspapers are now mouthpieces for misogyny.

334bu · 25/08/2023 10:07

Thank you for links and excerpts. Good to see sunlight on this issue

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Helleofabore · 25/08/2023 11:44

From the article:

Yesterday, the organisation parked a van outside the NYT’s offices, emblazoned in block capitals with the demand: “Stop questioning trans people’s right to exist & access medical care.” On X, formerly known as Twitter, GLAAD explained that the stunt was a response to “yet another biased, anti-trans article” and that the action was designed to hold the paper “accountable”.

https://twitter.com/glaad/status/1694691993639587995

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nauticant · 25/08/2023 11:54

Jesse Singal provides some commentary:

https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1694433783829627097

nauticant · 25/08/2023 11:57

Although that said there's (in some quarters) a fierce rearguard action going on on Twitter to argue how this article "proves" that Jamie Reed is a liar, and so everything she says is untrue, and that the NYT is virulently transphobic.

DiabolicalFinial · 25/08/2023 11:58

That’s a chilling message - a real ‘shut the f* up’ threat!

Helleofabore · 25/08/2023 12:13

A liar because she made a mistake about the child’s story? That child who had complicated health issues and still was put on the drugs?

As she admitted, she didn’t have the full story. She did get it in part wrong. Should that child be on those drugs? The rest of the stories from the clinic lead me to think that maybe the clinic was not careful enough.

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nauticant · 25/08/2023 12:24

Well, it's vital to undermine Reed, because that's the key to undermining the article and thus proving NYT's transphobia. That means that they'll seize upon anything that can be put to use in propping up their case.

PatatiPatatras · 25/08/2023 12:27

It must have taken a lot of courage to tell the truth. Not her truth. Not giving any extended meaning. Just the truth and acknowledge where she had made assumptions, what others are happy to jump on and call her a liar for.

General debate aside, that's one heck of a woman.

Helleofabore · 25/08/2023 12:33

Considering the risk to her spouse as well potentially being ostracized from their community as well, yes. Jamie Reed is very brave.

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Hopelesslydevotedtoshrews · 25/08/2023 13:21

I think the questions and concerns of the ER department are important here. They raise some key issues that are going to be hard to undermine.

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