Mason Greenwood to Leave United

Srvive · 2023-08-21T15:50:16+00:00

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RealityFan · 21/08/2023 16:54

Hmm...
6 months internal investigation to get precisely...nowhere.
Two weeks into the season after massive negative polling from Utd fans leads to...action.

HagoftheNorth · 21/08/2023 17:02

He’ll just end up playing somewhere else….

RealityFan · 21/08/2023 17:03

Maybe Saudi or Russia, they respect their women there as well.

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JazzyBBG · 21/08/2023 20:59

Imagine the pay off...

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 22/08/2023 09:13

He'll apparently remain on full pay until they sell him to another club.

PronounssheRa · 22/08/2023 09:20

I suspect they would have kept him on given the chance but there was very vocal opposition including from their own fans.

Another club will sign him.

Moroccanqueen · 22/08/2023 09:22

He will definitely be signed elsewhere. He will probably go abroad for the foreseeable I would imagine before trying to make a return when things have settled.

I haven’t followed to story really so don’t know the full ins and outs but I learnt the other day he had a baby with the girl who accused him? Absolutely crazy

littleripper · 22/08/2023 10:29

Maybe Brazil, a team there signed a man who was convicted of murdering his partner and feeding her to his dogs:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11901597/Brazilian-goalkeeper-lover-kidnapped-murdered-fed-dogs-signed-new-club-aged-38.html

LadyDanburysHat · 22/08/2023 10:33

Somewhat different situation but a Scottish player who was actually convicted of rape has not managed to play again in the UK as far as I'm aware. Every time someone signs him there is a backlash and it is ended before it begins. So I would imagine abroad is the only option.

If there hadn't been huge backlash then they absolutely would have kept him on.

And as for the girlfriend, she had the chance to get away. What on earth was she thinking going back? The cycnic in me thinks £££.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 22/08/2023 10:37

People in abusive relationships often return multiple times before managing to leave. Victim-blaming, gold-digger insinuations are uncalled for.

PronounssheRa · 22/08/2023 11:49

There is talk of him going to a Saudi team

GasHob · 22/08/2023 14:59

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 22/08/2023 10:37

People in abusive relationships often return multiple times before managing to leave. Victim-blaming, gold-digger insinuations are uncalled for.

This.

It is very common to return to an abuser and go on to have children with them, marry etc.

Education about domestic abuse is so essential. Otherwise people say things like: "And as for the girlfriend, she had the chance to get away. What on earth was she thinking going back? The cycnic in me thinks £££."

Greenwood breached bail terms last October. Nine months later his girlfriend had their baby. She must be in such a difficult position from all sides.

Greenwood should be in prison.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 22/08/2023 15:04

And as for the girlfriend, she had the chance to get away. What on earth was she thinking going back? The cycnic in me thinks £££.

The average number of times it takes someone to leave an abusive relationship is 7.

And the support she had wasn’t all that - even her own father declared them “very much in love” and spoke about how he was coming to terms with it when he made a statement. He also made clear he’d told his daughter to take the Instagram post down. At no point did he criticise Greenwood. That says a lot.

Redshoeblueshoe · 23/08/2023 11:37

Apparently he is going to Al-Ettifak. Stephen Gerrard is supposed to be signing him.

namechanger563 · 24/08/2023 13:44

Redshoeblueshoe · 23/08/2023 11:37

Apparently he is going to Al-Ettifak. Stephen Gerrard is supposed to be signing him.

Gerrard put the story on Instagram straight away calling it fake news.

HoldOnMiGenna · 24/08/2023 15:32

I'm posting to say that Mr Greenwood's in laws see their daughter as a cash cow and are not parents in the normal way, even though their condition is not uncommon.
Many women find it hard to leave cheating / abusive men because of the subliminal (and oftentimes overt) message that they received growing up is that they were to be offloaded to the nearest man with the most and using their looks/ sexuality and being submissive to abuse is all a part of the package.
Another example...Ched Evans and his facilitating father in law.
A lot of these women were brought up being " Daddy's Little Princess", too and materially wanting for nothing.
I'm going to give the young woman some grace. She has no protection or role models. And straight from school to WAG for one of the many low vibrational footballers instead of living some life and making a foundation for herself and not being as hard or canny as a Vicky Beckham, Colleen Rooney, Ms Gerrard, Ms Vardy......she's in for a world of shit.

Pebblepaint · 24/08/2023 15:40

I hate the way this is being reported. He's not "leaving". He remains on full pay and will continue to be employed by the club until such time as they can "work with him" to secure something acceptable to him elsewhere. This is most likely to be a loan deal where United continue to cover most of the salary.

They've said he won't play, but they haven't and don't intend to terminate his contract. He's basically on garden leave.

Pebblepaint · 24/08/2023 15:42

HoldOnMiGenna · 24/08/2023 15:32

I'm posting to say that Mr Greenwood's in laws see their daughter as a cash cow and are not parents in the normal way, even though their condition is not uncommon.
Many women find it hard to leave cheating / abusive men because of the subliminal (and oftentimes overt) message that they received growing up is that they were to be offloaded to the nearest man with the most and using their looks/ sexuality and being submissive to abuse is all a part of the package.
Another example...Ched Evans and his facilitating father in law.
A lot of these women were brought up being " Daddy's Little Princess", too and materially wanting for nothing.
I'm going to give the young woman some grace. She has no protection or role models. And straight from school to WAG for one of the many low vibrational footballers instead of living some life and making a foundation for herself and not being as hard or canny as a Vicky Beckham, Colleen Rooney, Ms Gerrard, Ms Vardy......she's in for a world of shit.

Father's are the reason women keep returning to abusive relationships or move from one awful man to another. They learned as children that this is what they should expect.

Pebblepaint · 24/08/2023 15:44

Pebblepaint · 24/08/2023 15:42

Father's are the reason women keep returning to abusive relationships or move from one awful man to another. They learned as children that this is what they should expect.

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I'm seeing an example of it in my friendship group currently. The father has treated his daughter's mother appallingly and is now doing the same to the woman he's got doing most of his childcare, but he's lauded as a fantastic father becuase he take's the girl out a lot and is fun dad. No, he's raising a daughter who will think she's only worth the treatment he gives to the adult women in his life. What's more "everyone" thinks he's wonderful, so it must be right.

ilovesooty · 24/08/2023 15:52

GasHob · 22/08/2023 14:59

This.

It is very common to return to an abuser and go on to have children with them, marry etc.

Education about domestic abuse is so essential. Otherwise people say things like: "And as for the girlfriend, she had the chance to get away. What on earth was she thinking going back? The cycnic in me thinks £££."

Greenwood breached bail terms last October. Nine months later his girlfriend had their baby. She must be in such a difficult position from all sides.

Greenwood should be in prison.

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He should have been returned to prison for breaching his bail conditions.

He has no place in any decent club.

namechanger563 · 25/08/2023 13:19

My concern is for the girlfriend at the centre of this. His victim. A new mother and incredibly vulnerable. Her support network is weak, her own family are not there for her best interests. Pretty soon she and the baby will be whisked away to another country where women's legal rights are less, and women in general are less valued. Because this kind of country is the only one that Greenwood will get game time.

Then she will be in a foreign country, all alone just her and the baby. And him. And everyone around him who facilitates him. She won't have access to healthcare or money independently of him. She is so vulnerable already and it will be even harder to leave him next time he strikes.

ilovesooty · 26/08/2023 07:26

namechanger563 · 25/08/2023 13:19

My concern is for the girlfriend at the centre of this. His victim. A new mother and incredibly vulnerable. Her support network is weak, her own family are not there for her best interests. Pretty soon she and the baby will be whisked away to another country where women's legal rights are less, and women in general are less valued. Because this kind of country is the only one that Greenwood will get game time.

Then she will be in a foreign country, all alone just her and the baby. And him. And everyone around him who facilitates him. She won't have access to healthcare or money independently of him. She is so vulnerable already and it will be even harder to leave him next time he strikes.

Absolutely.

MrsJamin · 26/08/2023 08:17

Everyone has let this young woman down. 😔

nettie434 · 26/08/2023 08:59

This is part of a wider problem. Very few incidents of rape result in charges. If they are charged, the conviction rate for rape is actually 75% (not sure how that compares with other offences but it's higher than most of us think it is). However rich people accused of rape can afford top legal teams so their chances of conviction are lower.

The problem is that money is thought to be more important than women's safety in top level football. Benjamin Mendy (recently found innocent of multiple charges of rape) was out of contract at Manchester City. They didn't need him. He's not played competitively for a couple of years so there was no pressure to keep him. Utd clearly did want to keep Greenwood and it was only due to the opposition that they decided he wouldn't return to the 1st team. I personally don't think Greenwood will find another team in England but I'll bet that's more because he has a bad attitude and hasn't played competitively for nearly 2 years. He probably won't go to Saudi Arabia as even he realises that a man who persisted in holding illegal parties in the pandemic probably won't manage to stay on the right side of the law in Saudi Arabia.

Another Premier League club have continued to play an unidentified player even though he has been on bail for rape for over a year. (There are rumours about his identity but legally he can't be named unless he is charged). The other day Nottingham Forest signed a player accused of rape in Argentina.

I wish this was an isolated case but it isn't. In the UK, what happens is up to the clubs unless a player is prosecuted. Apparently, in the USA, the equivalent bodies to the FA would step in and sanction players.