Yougov poll on what Britons think of L,G,B, and T people.

[ArabeIIaScott]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/articles-reports/2023/08/11/what-do-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender-brito

'...the British public express more positive views of the queer community than lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Britons expect.Around half of Britons say they hold positive views of gay and lesbian people (54%) and bisexuals (50%), while 39% say the same of transgender people. A third or slightly more (33-39%) have a neutral view of each group.'

(It's unclear whether YouGov told LGB or T people whether they'd be referring to them as 'queer', or asked whether they were okay with that.)

Looks like a very simple, if not simplistic, question. But still, I thought some may find it of interest.

Maybe worth noting that there seemst to be growing division between attitudes towards the different letters in the 'LGBT' acronym.

Indeed, I hadn’t looked at the data when I posted the survey question but the survey of “almost 1000 queer Britons” included a number who declared their sexual orientation as heterosexual.

24 of them. So less than 3% of the survey respondents, but still.

What a bizarre question? I personally feel very positive towards Miriam Margolyses, I feel fairly neutral towards Stephen Fry, I feel extremely negative towards Jeffrey Dahmer...... 😕

FWIW I feel fairly negative about a lot of straight people too. Obviously. There's fucking loads of them.

Apart from the minus community, nobody likes them

The fact that they have called participants 'cisgender' speaks volumes. Presumably they'd have asked participants to select their gender ahead of the survey to confirm this.
This means this is a very self-selecting survey of a subset of Britons who already think a certain way.
It's like having a survey on religion, polling only self-described Christians, and then saying that the majority of Britons go to church.

I'd very much like to see genuine and detailed polling on this issue, but anyone who deals with that should know you need to get the questions right or your results are useless

I would also have answered neutral- whether someone is Lesbian, Gay, Bi or Trans is as relevant to me as whether they do or not like marmite.

I base my views on people to be based on the content of their characters and achievements, their sexuality meanwhile is irrelevant.

I do surveys all the time and if I'm not particularly passionate for/ or hate the item being discussed or if it has no impact/ is irrelevant to me personally I pick the indifferent or middle of the score range answer. And a lot of surveys are really bad at phrasing their questions and you can't always work out what they are trying to ask you so I choose the middle of the road option. I suspect most people doing surveys a lot do the same!

Did they use the Q word? Because I can’t roll my eyes enough towards anyone who refers to themselves in this way. It’s awful.

The report uses 'queer'. The second poll I linked to showed that fewer than 3% of people who ID as LGBTQ+ (the most popular choice, apparently) used 'queer' to describe themselves. So bit odd that it's been used as the chosen descriptor by YouGov.

Strictly speaking, the second poll didn’t ask respondents (3% of whom identified as heterosexual) how they described themselves; the poll asked them which acronym, usually starting with the letters LGB, they use to refer to the community of people who are non-straight or identify as a different gender. Including “queer” in the list as a possible response when it isn’t an acronym was a bit of an odd choice in developing the survey.

If the question had asked “which acronym, term or phrase do you use” rather than “which acronym”, and included “the queer community” as one of the terms, it’s possible more respondents would have chosen that one.

My takeaway is = I won’t be taking any yougov press releases or articles at face value in future, without first reading the survey it is based on.

Yes, true.

Those who use "queer" often seem to have very little idea how rude it can come across to some of us.

I wouldn't try to tell anyone else what they should call themselves (even if I think their use of it is appropriative and crass), but when in the past I've objected to being referred to as queer myself, the person involved has seemed shocked that I'd object so strongly to it.

Apart from the minus community, nobody likes them

Oh no, what had been a little ray of sunshine bonding with + has been crushed by having to acknowledge the - not sure I will sleep tonight. :'(