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My Sting interview farce shows how entrenched trans ideology has become - Hadley Freeman

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IwantToRetire · 06/08/2023 01:28

Lessons come from all sorts of unlikely sources. Some people learn them from inspirational quotes on Instagram or from online influencers. I recently learnt one from a pop star you might have heard of called Sting. Not long ago I was commissioned to interview Sting for a freelance job. But then I was told I was being replaced by another writer — not because of a problem with my work, but because of my “controversial views about gender”. Never mind that it hadn’t even occurred to me to talk about gender theory with Sting (music, I thought, seemed a more obvious topic for conversation). I was out.

In Sting’s defence, I have no idea if this decision was made by him. It may have been decided by the phalanx of PRs around him, or perhaps by the person who commissioned me, who belatedly realised they’d hired someone worse than a murderous despot. If so, it would not be the first time I’ve lost work because I believe in material reality or, as the current terminology has it, am “gender-critical”. There was the PR who wouldn’t work with me on a project because, she explained, “What if my baby grows up to be trans and finds out I helped you?” There was the allegedly mouthy and fearless pop star who refused to be interviewed because I am too “controversial”. They always say they don’t want to be “dragged into the controversy”, apparently unaware that they are dragging themselves into it by tacitly endorsing censorship of those who disagree with gender ideology.

Not only finding out about something so absurd (and yes I dont under estimate the impact of women's employment) and her writing really cheered me up with all the bad news and the depressing weather.

And she finishes with this:

But I’ve learnt that it’s actually quite useful when someone says they can’t be associated with me, because life is too short to waste on cowards. And when those cowards U-turn like Starmer, women like me will welcome them. But we won’t forget.

@HadleyFreeman

Sunday Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/my-sting-interview-farce-shows-how-entrenched-trans-ideology-has-become-djwsftgph

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My Sting interview farce shows how entrenched trans ideology has become

Lessons come from all sorts of unlikely sources. Some people learn them from inspirational quotes on Instagram or from online influencers. I recently learnt one from a pop star you might have heard of called Sting. Not long ago I was commissioned to in...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/my-sting-interview-farce-shows-how-entrenched-trans-ideology-has-become-djwsftgph

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Ofcourseshecan · 06/08/2023 05:45

I admire Hadley more every time I hear of her.

Clymene · 06/08/2023 05:46

Oh good on you Hadley.

334bu · 06/08/2023 06:02

Thank you for the share link .

AutumnCrow · 06/08/2023 06:17

That’ll get some traction.

ArseMenagerie · 06/08/2023 06:21

Hadley 💪🏽

FrancescaContini · 06/08/2023 07:00

Great article by Hadley - thanks for sharing it.

And thanks for making me laugh at “what if my baby grows up to be trans and finds out I helped you”.

borntobequiet · 06/08/2023 07:03

Terrific article.

Tabasco007 · 06/08/2023 07:06

Crazy how a simple logical belief can be so controversial these days. Love Hadley Freeman!

Backstreets · 06/08/2023 07:06

FrancescaContini · 06/08/2023 07:00

Great article by Hadley - thanks for sharing it.

And thanks for making me laugh at “what if my baby grows up to be trans and finds out I helped you”.

Says a lot about modern parenting - terrified of their child’s disapproval even when they’re pre-verbal!

AgathaSpencerGregson · 06/08/2023 07:20

FrancescaContini · 06/08/2023 07:00

Great article by Hadley - thanks for sharing it.

And thanks for making me laugh at “what if my baby grows up to be trans and finds out I helped you”.

Yeah. I mean that baby’s going to have bigger problems. Mainly it’s mother having shit for brains.

ThisOldThang · 06/08/2023 07:26

What if her baby grows up to be 'gender critical' and finds out her mother cancelled a journalist?

turbonerd · 06/08/2023 07:30

Hadley! Such a badass! Much admiration!

And too much exclamation 😁

AgathaSpencerGregson · 06/08/2023 07:36

She should interview Stewart Copeland instead. So funny and charming. Sting’s a bit of a bore now

LeSlogo · 06/08/2023 07:47

She's such a great writer and admirable. Glad the Times 9prints her

ResisterRex · 06/08/2023 08:00

Andrew Neil has tweeted it

twitter.com/afneil/status/1688075622608691200?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

"Excellent Sunday Times column by Hadley Freeman on the price she and other women have paid for having perfectly reasonable, sensible opinions on gender issues."

Igmum · 06/08/2023 08:15

Well done Hadley and good to see Andrew Neil's tweet

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 06/08/2023 08:29

’“So Sting once played a concert for the daughter of the former Uzbek president Islam Karimov, who was accused of boiling his political opponents alive. But apparently he can’t bear to be interviewed by me ‘

Sting’s hypocrisy is very funny.

WickedSerious · 06/08/2023 08:35

I'm amazed that Mr Sumner is able to climb out of his own arse and stick around long enough to be interviewed by anyone.

Needmoresleep · 06/08/2023 08:36

I love the phrase "the magical-thinking mantra “Trans women are women”".

CheeseMuffin · 06/08/2023 08:41

Fab article by Hadley. I wonder who the "mouthy and fearless pop star" who refused to be interviewed by her was?

IcakethereforeIam · 06/08/2023 08:53

Wasn't Sting, or his wife, found guilty of discrimination against a chef they employed when she was pregnant? Can't remember the details but their actions were pretty vile.

LoobiJee · 06/08/2023 09:02

“Will women no longer lose their jobs — as has happened to Kathleen Stock, Maya Forstater, Allison Bailey, Rosie Kay and countless others — for saying what Starmer is now saying? Or is it palatable only when it comes from a man?”

Well, this is the key question isn’t it?

LoobiJee · 06/08/2023 09:09

CheeseMuffin · 06/08/2023 08:41

Fab article by Hadley. I wonder who the "mouthy and fearless pop star" who refused to be interviewed by her was?

There’s loads of mouthy ones.

But what counts as fearless these days?

LulooLemon · 06/08/2023 09:10

Thanks for much for sharing the link.

Love Hadley.

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