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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A physical basis for social constructs

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Ingenieur · 04/08/2023 14:17

A recent article from the US discusses the issue of social constructs arising from the physical reality of a person's body.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/race-change-to-another-trend-online-rcna93759

The article is discussing transracialism, but many of the forcefully-put arguments will he well familiar to those on this board insofar as they also relate to gender.

One of the interesting nuggets is a statement that:

The modern concept of race is inseparable from the systemic racial hierarchy hundreds of years in the making. Simply put, changing races is not possible, because “biological races” themselves are not real.

This seems to be a perfect analogue for gender, that while sex is real, gender cannot be separated from hundreds (thousands?) of years of hierarchy, and that genders themselves aren't real.

I'm really interested that in the US, such a statement can be so blatantly stated, but one would not be able to say the same about sex (or indeed gender) in the same way.

Inside the online world of people who think they can change their race

Practitioners of “race change to another,” or RCTA, purport to be able to manifest physical changes in their appearance and even their genetics to truly become a different race.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/race-change-to-another-trend-online-rcna93759

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RavingStone · 04/08/2023 14:53

I'm really interested that in the US, such a statement can be so blatantly stated, but one would not be able to say the same about sex (or indeed gender) in the same way.

The way I see it, is that racism and race discussions affect black and brown people the most. Misogyny and sex/ gender discussions affect women the most.

We have neither race nor sex equality but the one thing going for the racial equality rights movement is the group most affected by racism includes men. Therefore they are at least allowed to own their own movement. The group most affected by misogyny and gender ideas does not include men, so even the existence of a rights movement is under constant threat.

PillowQuilt · 04/08/2023 15:40

Thanks for posting, very interesting read.

It was striking that there is no rationale given about WHY transracialism is different to being transgender. Just the assertion that it is, and has been around longer: "Race historically emerged as a social construct to establish a racial hierarchy with the white race at the top, whereas variances in gender identity have existed for thousands of years, he said."

AvidMerrian · 04/08/2023 15:59

Race historically emerged as a social construct to establish a racial hierarchy with the white race at the top, whereas variances in gender identity have existed for thousands of years, he said.

But that isn’t true, neither sentence. Does he think there were no forms of racial hierarchy in societies that hadn’t experienced white people?
Variances in gender identity: what even is that if we know that gender is unstable and varies over time and place?

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