Assaults by Trans people in sexed spaces compared with Assaults on trans people in sexed spaces

[GretaGip]

One of the arguments for TW using female spaces is because they're so vulnerable in male spaces.

I've been wracking my brains to think of any reported assaults but can't think of any.

I know there was a little girl attacked in a supermarket toilet by a trans woman (was it in Scotland?).

It'd be interesting to see the balance.

I guess the Wi spa incident is another example.

Trans people certainly are attacked in bathrooms:

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/transgender-teens-restricted-bathroom-access-sexual-assault/

But whether there are any studies comparing the numbers of assaults on trans people vs assaults by trans people I'm not sure.

You'll never know. Because the useful idiots that populate our police forces, politics etc pretend they can't tell the difference between men and women so assaults by transwomen are categorised as by women etc. 🙄

It would be an interesting statistic. But I suspect the stats would be skewed by people claiming misgendering is a literal assault.

Hang on though - that article says that 25.9% of students from the survey reported being a victim of sexual assault in the past 12 months and that rose to 36% of students who were subject to "restroom or locker room restrictions".

It doesn't say that those assaults were in the restroom or locker room, just that they occurred in the last 12 months.

I would've thought that transwomen would get a greater backlash from being in a female space, particularly with words being "literal violence" and all. They'd probably be safer in the men's.

It doesn't, but as the article says it is a strong indication of a risky environment.

There are a number of news articles about individuals cases from google, I just thought the study would be better than listing individual cases.

It doesn't specify if the assaults were on FtM trans or MtF trans either

FtM trans in boy's and men's restrooms and locker rooms are more vulnerable than MtF in female areas

Gay men or men appearing to be gay have long been at risk in men's toilets. The issue here is homophobia and I suspect that any attacks on transwomen would be fuelled by something similar and by the same men.

The report the article is based on, linked by @Flickersy, is here. https://hrc-prod-requests.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/files/assets/resources/2018-YouthReport-NoVid.pdf

It is a survey not an academic study. I can't find in it any link between toilets and assaults, only that 58% of trans identified children don't use the toilets at school because they don't feel safe. The survey is by Human Rights Organisation, a fully pro trans lobby group, and as we all know kids are being indoctrinated on-line to the point where they think anyone refusing to accept their beliefs about gender identity ideology makes them unsafe.

Please @Flickersy add the individual examples you are aware of of trans identified children being sexually assaulted. I'm only aware of the cases of girls being raped and assaulted by trans identifying males (ie transwomen/transgirls) in the girls toilets.

https://www.womenarehuman.com/2nd-girl-raped-in-school-restroom-by-transgender-fellow-student-furious-dad-arrested/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/young-girl-is-raped-in-school-bathroom-by-transgender-peer

https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/transgender-woman-18-sexually-assaulted-girl-10-morrisons-toilet-8914577/

Nobody should be assaulted in bathrooms.

Male people being at risk cannot and should not be dealt with by dumping them on women, and adding ANY male people to women's spaces excludes some women while increasing the risk and body count of assaulted women. How the male people identify at the time is not relevant.

Male people want and need alternatives to male spaces and male violence. Great. Find solutions and leave women the fuck alone. If you create additional spaces there are many women who will choose to go in there with male people. Male people demanding that female people stop having access to female only spaces because it messes with their validation? Need to get a bloody grip and cope with the idea that 'inclusion' does not mean 'only them'.

Reminded me of this circular reasoning.