Annaliese Dodds: "sex and gender are different"

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/24/labour-vows-to-modernise-simplify-and-reform-gender-recognition-act

Dodds criticizes the SNP bill but Labour actually backed it Scotland and whipped their MSPs to support it.

It's just all spin and lies. Turns out it doesn't matter who's in charge, serial liar Boris or upright, honest Keir, they all just lie exactly the same.

Dodd's promoting the notion the 'diagnosis' by one Dr and one registrar should be enough is dangerous. Tell that to the 1000's of detransitioners who were castrated in their teens, had penis inversions, double mastectomies and other unessential life changing surgeries. Sometimes just at the behest of their parents in an effort to cure the gay child they could see emerging. We need much more mainstream interviews about the detransitioners (#detrans). The entire movement seems crammed with internalised homophobia, homophobic fathers, religious strictly confirming parents & cult zealots at 'Mermaids' lobby pressure group. Stonewall needs dismantled and for the word 'Stonewall' to go back to representing LGB rights and interests and stop hijacking and cherry picking the meaning the name had. Stonewalls' push for Diversity Champions in organisations and ranking accordingly has been very damaging, run by non experts who have a vested interest. All very warped.

https://open.substack.com/pub/jamesesses/p/the-labour-party-is-not-to-be-trusted?r=clsg2&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

"This would allow applicants to go to one of the many and growing private gender clinics in the UK (see, for example, the disgraced GenderGP) and pay a few hundred quid to get a diagnosis, possibly after just a single conversation. This undermines safeguarding" ( James Esses)

We are no further forward than we were yesterday. In trying to appease women's groups ,and the general public, by slighly altering their wording ( and I assume they think that by still having to have a doctor sign self Id off, is a real concession to women who against self ID) they have pissed off the TRA lobby too.

They think people are stupid. Stonewall put out a message just two days ago saying that they were committed to TRA rights and there would be no compromise, after the Beth Rigby debacle. This is nothing but another PR stunt.

So she has:

twitter.com/anneliesedodds/status/1683434056225112065?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

"To modernise, simplify and reform the gender recognition law, we will:

Replace the panel of anonymous doctors who oversee decisions with a registrar model.

Replace the 'acquired gender' period with a reflection period.

Scrap the outdated spousal consent mechanism."

She doesn't understand marriage law either, then.

Thats the 'modernisation' that they are talking about. Women can be unaware that her husband has changed 'legal sex'?

What we haven't forgotten is that it was MEN that opened this can of worms.

One of the useful things about extending the "trans umbrella" as broadly as possible and of encouraging shedloads of ordinary young people to believe that they are "trans" is that all these "trans" young people will identify with the interests of those people who really do benefit from laws about "trans" people. Even when those laws only benefit a very tiny number of "trans" people and even when they work against the best interests of all the rest.

If I think I am "trans" then any law that is good for "trans" people must be good for me. Mustn't it?

Remind me which parties opposed it?

Where in Hansard is the opposition standing up and saying this is a can of worms about to go hideously wrong for women and children, because it's relying on nothing more than good intentions and institutionalised misogyny?

They ALL fell for it. Hook line and sinker. If you're going to blame the Tories for that then you have to blame all of them equally.

We're down to a choice between totally batshit and manipulatively making a few vague sounds long enough to get into power, and with doubts, knowing the issues and having some sane people on board, but probably not the stomach to actually do anything involving saying no to a mob that now beats women in public and gets away with it.

It's a fucking awful choice, it's going to be the least bloody awful for women and children, but mostly whatever gives us five more years of as much breathing space as possible because the mob will just keep racking up these outrages. They can't help it. And they will eventually reach a stinking pile so high that no party will be able to identify as not being able to see or understand it. If women's rights have by then be actively reversed in law, it will be much much harder to repair than it will be if a party has been in power that while it won't fix the situation, is at least not gagging to dive in and make it worse.

Unfortunately this area is a zero sum game based on a philosophical fallacy predicated on a denial of science including biology and material reality.

And Labour reckon that have a solution to all that? Nobel Prizes at the ready.

This is the problem - people looking to be gaslit. If it was anything even remotely like a genuine climb down I'd be delighted. But it is not and we cannot justshe cross our fingers make a wish and pretend it is something it is not and if it is not a climb down, if it not a change, if it is not a genuine piece of support for women why would we be pleased? Why SHOULD we be pleased because we're thrown the tiniest crumb just be cause it is Labour? Why should we hold Labour to a lower standard than other parties? thinking it is ok for the left to be crap on this because they somehow have the moral high ground is how we got into this mess in the first place. We need to be tougher on Labour and more demanding not pleased with next to nothing. We need to stop being such wimps about Labour and stop letting them off the hook.

As someone on twitter said this morning:

"Wider picture is what Lab has been saying & supporting over the last 7 years. Apart from Antoniazzi & Duffield they're all trans zealots. None of them has ever backed Maya, LGBA, Doc Stock, Allison Bailey. Stonewall & Mermaids are the favoured groups. How do they square that?!

God this is just awful.

Some people will fall for this superficial washing of their policies with vague phrases like 'single sex exemptions' when Labour don't seem to use any of those words in the same way as the rest of us. And are using the flannel to hide what they are really up to - self-id by another name and trashing the rights of women in relationships.

I actually think this makes Labour even worse than I thought. They're going to do all this to women but hide it. They have not even the courage of their convictions. They're going to do us over and lie whilst it happens.

Lord knows the Tories have been slow to reacat but they have listened and many of them seem to get what the problem is. I just wish they would actaully DO something as well. The Tories are so SLOW.

I thought that was funny tbh. The SNP bill was just a cheap stunt to annoy Westminster but ours will be wonderful and please everyone. No really.....

This really annoys me when they carp on about how demeaning it is for trans people to have a medical diagnosis, this pales in comparison to the utter degredation, dehumanising, humiliating, intrusive process people who require Disability Benefits go through or even to get a fucking Blue Badge for parking.

Just fuck off with this rhetoric Ms Dodds.

My favourite Twitter thread on this so far is this one, which outlines the different ways in which Dodds's article is cynical, misleading or downright untruthful:

https://twitter.com/claireOT/status/1683410132024041472

Even the way it’s framed shows where women are in the hierarchy

“Labour will lead on transgender rights” not “Labour will lead on protecting women’s rights to single sex spaces”

This really annoys me when they carp on about how demeaning it is for trans people to have a medical diagnosis, this pales in comparison to the utter degredation, dehumanising, humiliating, intrusive process people who require Disability Benefits go through or even to get a fucking Blue Badge for parking.

Absolutely. And think about the differential - one is about the right to get access to a parking space. The other is the right to have a status in law that is based on an outright lie.

They have tried it hide the "spousal veto" (what a terrible term) but it's getting noticed now, even by those who were earlier seemingly happy about the proposals in the Graun.

Now:

twitter.com/helensaxby11/status/1683477400972042241?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Previously today:

twitter.com/helensaxby11/status/1683439839956312064?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Damn good point.

I'd believe Labour were sincere if they apologized to Rosie Duffield , condemned publically the transactivist that punched the woman in Scotland and injured her and invited Labour Women protecting women's rights to advise them.

None of this has happened.
It's Labour's fake ploy to get women's votes.

Basically every other party are doing it wrong. Only Labour would do gender reform in exactly the right way. Maintaining the exact right balance between “stoking a culture war” and taking a “cavalier approach”.

Let's see. If Rosie D gets an apology & the Labour women's groups (who have had to tolerate misogyny central for so long) - get some long awaited meetings. Yes? 🙄

Labour Twitter are calling it a "huge achievement". This was retweeted by Lesbian Labour:

twitter.com/iansmcnee/status/1683426443529797633?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

How is the removal of consent, a "huge achievement"?

twitter.com/fondofbeetles/status/1683496025330253824?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

twitter.com/anneliesedodds/status/1683434056225112065?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ