Do you hide your GC views under a bushel?

[lurchermummy]

I have a lot of liberal, left leaning friends. They are all about inclusivity. I know I am GC but tend to keep quiet about it because I feel I will be shouted down or seen as a right wing reactionary. It seems that Mumsnet is the only safe space to air such views. Anyone else have this experience? Am I a coward??

Not with my friends but at work you aren't able to challenge anything except gender affirming approaches

I'm open with my friends - even most of liberal ones tend to accept that while i'm a TERF (like it's a bad thing!), maybe i have a point about male rapists not be able to stay in women's prisons, and that's a start about self-id needing some limitations.

A friends daughter who is in her 20s tried to re-educate me and she says transwomen are women, and no women are rapists, so any rapist who claims to be a transwoman is not really a transwoman - but transwomen should just have to self-I'd, and should not be questioned. It was bizzare to hear her tie herself in knots, her mother is appalled at her lack of logic. But she wants to be a progressive with a cause , and I fugure trans rights are easy, won't impact her like say fair distribution of wealth which could increase her taxes, or not taking lots of flights.

I'm not out at work - except with a couple of friends - there is a transman in the small my team, so sensitive issue. I don't want make him feel uncomfortable, and I think I feel more sympathy for a transman, not a risk to anyone.

I was one of a minority who didn't switch to a company provided pride laynard for Pride month.

I would have if it was the old rainbow, but not with the trans colours in it. I wasn't challenged, but would have said that there are so many significant causes we need to mark that I'm uncomfortable about singling one out, and would have given femicide as an issue I think should be given a lot more attention. Because women actually are murdered for being women. But no one asked!

I don't think you're unreasonable to keep your views to yourself if you don't want to lose friends - personally I'd prefer to know if I had friends with your views so I could lose them! You're not a coward though.

I am very vocal within my friendship group and my home.
My home is most important; my children are aged 6-18, myself and my husband are on the same, unequivocal page regarding this.
My children are in a faith school which strongly opposes trans ideology and is becoming academised, in part, due to this.

At work I toe the line. Most of us are rolling our eyes beneath the parapet.

No hiding here, I discuss where possible and stand up for women at every opportunity, no TWAW, no handing over women's rights, no increased risk to women and girls on my watch.

Nope. I wear my 'adult human female' tshirt every day and every where I go, and I've only ever had positive things said about it back.
TRA may be active on Twitter, but I've never met a single person in real life who thinks a man should be allowed in female sports for example.

Thank you.
I hope to be able to join you very soon.

A similar thing happened to me. Although rather than a straight reporting I was accused of bullying. It was dismissed after eventually having a lawyer involved.

Personal life, friends, family - very open & my DC are all very aware of my stance.

Work life - not at all, I avoid any potential conversations or scenarios, and have been really disappointed by women I admire going all out on the TWAW etc.

I'm in Ireland working in HE, and a great majority, IMO, don't really understand the issues, think it's an extension of tolerance & equality in terms of sexual attraction.

I am quite involved in the running of my local sports club in which just over half the membership are women. The sports governing body still have a transwomen policy of reduced testosterone blokes being allowed to compete with biological women. This has caused a lot of anger and is discussed very loudly by older and younger women alike. Strangely enough those training hard to compete at both local and national events don't subscribe to the 'inclusivity' bollocks at the expense of fairness, safety or safeguarding.

Self-employed in the arts and quite a big crossover between work and friends. So I do have to be careful, as I know I wouldn't be considered for some work if I was very vocal.

Those who I've come 'out' to have shot me down and made me feel like a bigot. I'm pretty sure I've lost one friend because of it.

I uses to be quite open about it but after being cruelly cut off by a sibling and former friend, I keep my mouth shut now.

Which means more people keep their mouth shut in turn and the whole thing relies on silencing dissenters.

With family and sone friends im
out but at work, definitely not. I need my job and I work in the voluntary sector which is stonewalled to the eyeballs. I’d be sacked or forced to undergo some bloody awful beeee kiiiiiiind training

I worked for a county council for 13 years and had to hide my feelings/bite my lip on all sorts of things in order to have a job. Naturally, the place leant heavily to the left. What it's like there now with all the trans stuff God alone knows.

I also have two daughters, and have to be very guarded in what I say about gender issues in their presence. The only person with whom I can be myself is my wonderful partner. Luckily, we are on the same page on this, and other issues.

I’m completely undercover but I say things that are GC all the time and the wokiest people agree with me. It’s say we as a society—and as feminists—need to overcome gender stereotypes. Everyone wholeheartedly agrees. So far I don’t think the penny has dropped for any of them but I live in hope.

Open with most of my family. All inlaws bar one are GC, encouragingly so are all the teens on both sides of the family.

The one family member that is a full TWAW won't have a harry potter book in her house. I reckon though that she'll peak nicely in time given she's got two little girls who are into all sorts of sport and hobbies that require changing rooms.

At work, the CEO thinks it's all a load of shite so there's nothing pushing it at work thankfully - still though I've a TWAW colleague so I just don't get into it in the work place. Everyone on both sides of the debate are helpfully ignoring the elephant in the room.

I was very careful to research the subject and concluded that i'm strongly GC. so I'm now very open about it. i'm not very good at explaining things/argue in a debate so i don't bother. Just by showing which side I'm on, i hope to open up their minds slowly. they know i'm not a bigot. so maybe the so-called "contradiction" will snag

I'm open to close family and friends, I have discussed it with my teenage daughters but it hasn't been an issue for them yet. I'm much more cautious what I say at work as I'm concerned some people would complain and put my role in jeopardy. I'm a bit ashamed of this and can't wait to be in a position where I can retire and be much more open.

If you feel you have nothing to be ashamed off with your GC views by Loud and Proud people!

otherwise why hide? You have a protected belief. Love it proudly and literally wear the T-shirt.

people who don’t want to be in your life because of it we’re never your real friends.

I'm open to an extent to a few people but am pretty cowardly and meally-mouthed.

People stay their birth sex, sex is a protected characteristic as is sexual orientation, race, religion and gender reassignment etc, but people should be able to present how they like without discrimination or hate or fear of violence.

It's just women aren't collectively obliged to solve the issue.

I am open with family and friends. At work I have to be discreet as it would cause massive problems for me and my employer and indirectly my colleagues.

I don't hide my views, but I do try and have measured calm conversations if it comes up and make sure I listen as least as much as I talk. I haven't fallen out with anyone yet. A few conversations have had slightly tense moments but generally it's been immense relief from the other person to find someone willing to have a discussion about this without them feeling shot down or attacked.

I’m very new to gender criticalness - and am retired so thankfully undoxxable - but most friends and family I’ve mentioned it to are broadly in agreement with me on the crazy stuff like rapists in women’s prisons and men winning women’s sports competitions. My leftie 28-year old niece works in a university and positively BRISTLED when I joked to her “I’m a terf now, you know” - but she too was appalled when I mentioned Isla Bryson (which she hadn’t heard about before).

“No Debate” has had a chilling effect up until the last year when crazy case after crazy case has been highlighted. Hannah Barnes’ book Time to Think converted my sister, who has passed it around friends and colleagues - it’s so factual and damning it’s a valuable weapon in debate.

I'm open. If it loses me friends, so be it. It hasn't so far: most of the people I've discussed this with (calmly and rationally, referencing the science) say something like 'thank goodness I'm not the only one). Unwillingness to speak your views is the way that minorities can bully majorities. We will only have ourselves to blame if we lose this battle.