What in the name of sack this teacher is happening

[Thatgirl1981]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12266445/School-teacher-allegedly-told-girls-like-lose-virginities-hotel-outdoors.htmlArt teacher tells 11-year-old girls they could lose virginity in hotel

Who would be paying for the hotel? I doubt a 16 year old girl would be, so presumably... an older man?

Grim.

I feel so sorry for children these days and can't begin to imagine how frightened and confused they must feel about the world.

It’s a shame, as a parent I feel that no one can be trusted to talk about sex with my DD. I’ll be disapplying her from all sex ed that I can. She’ll miss out, but I’m not having her brainwashed by these perverts

IF this is correct, this is a teacher with no boundaries / understanding about age appropriateness. And a school that's failing to ensure teachers have the understanding and knowledge to teach PSHE.

You can’t rse is mandatory

the far left we’re accusing religious folk of not wanting their children to learn about gay people and argued they needed mandatory sex education so they weren’t as bigoted as their parents

so now you can’t opt out turns out Christian folk like me might have been right about letting parents do this part and that values and attitudes to sex should be set by parents not a woke 24 year teacher

I love the thread title @Thatgirl1981 !
The whole thing is outrageous, but the huge red flag for me is suggesting hotels: this is the classic location for groomers/abusers to use, and is a flag for safeguarding if a young person says this is where they go to have sex

I think you're allowed to opt out of the sex ed part of rse (in. England at least).

FWIW I'm a secondary teacher, and my school covers all elements of rse in a sensible, age appropriate manner, with an enormous emphasis on consent. Please don't make up your mind about school-specific provision without even speaking to the school in question.

They simply move it over to the relationships lesson

activists teachers clearly are not diswaded by little things like the law

your not allowed to have mixed sex toilets in schools yet we have them

your supposed to follow the equality’s act in terms of religion
yet there is a recording out there of a teacher telling a Muslim child they should renounce their faith because Islam is bigoted

your supposed to teach scientific fact yet we have teachers telling girls their are 3 sex’s and you can be a cat

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My DD opted out of RSE altogether - we're in England. Her choice.

The problem is what you consider sensible is in self up for debate the reason any teachers can’t and shouldn’t teach RSE because what one person classes as a appropriate relationship another person may not

if I lined up every teacher in your school and asked for views on marriage I would get as many views as teachers

every teacher would say 1+1= 2

only parents should hand down values and around sex and relationships

Teaching indisputable facts like 1+1=2 (which isn't even true if you're working in binary btw) is a vanishingly small part of our job. A much bigger part is relentless, quick fire decision making about how exactly to respond to every single misdemeanour by every single child in every single situation. What would be an over-reaction, when does a de-escalation actually hamper the learning of the other kids in the room, whose version of events is closest to the truth, what sanction would be fair and so on and so on.

In all those scenarios there are a range of broadly "sensible" approaches, and a number of unfair and/or counterproductive reactions. Same with RSE. It's broadly "sensible" to keep kids on track with what they're meant to be discussing, and by and large to swerve potentially inflammatory subjects in a whole-class setting.

Of course some schools/teachers are getting this wrong, unintentionally or otherwise. This whole thing needs to be looked at properly on a national level. But in my experience, these incidents that are rare and extreme enough to become newsworthy are absolutely not representative of how most schools approach RSE.