Ulster Rugby banned from Belfast Pride

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BBC News Article here

Ulster Rugby have been banned from taking part in Belfast Pride because of the IRUF policy on not allowing male born players in the women’s teams.

I so hope Ulster Rugby stand proud in this exclusion - they are 100% in the right here. SUFTUW

Ulster Rugby can march separately with the old-fashioned Lesbians, the ones without the cocks.
I am quite unsporty but I've been to an all women rugby match. Cheers to fit sporty lesbians!

For what it's worth I can see how someone might think it's homophobic to suggest a gay person hasn't seen sport before. I think "sobbing into the pillow" is also borderline homophobic too, given the proximity to "biting the pillow".
'Sobbing into the pillow' is a well known phrase, especially in Mills and Boon, 'biting the pillow': much more niche.
Sounds like looking really hard to find something to flag up

Oops accidentally posted instead of editing!
Meant to say: seems like really looking hard for something to flag up when there isn't actually anything to flag up

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Rugby rules are increasing strict for safety. My 10yo is no longer able to play for her mixed team for example... if 10yos, who have yet to enter puberty, can't play mixed Rugby, I'm not sure how they could justify adult transitioners playing with women.

Anyway it was suggested thatUlster Rugby was crying into their pillow rather than Pride....

WTF?

It's a well known sarcastic phrase. It's a stretch to take it to where you did.

Can I still say 'It's a stretch' or is there some double meaning to that too?

I think "sobbing into the pillow" is also borderline homophobic too, given the proximity to "biting the pillow".

Where have you been for the past fifty years? The first is a very very common phrase. The second, not so much.

BelTel’s coverage of the event thoughtfully included a reminder of the ban; & of PSNI having been refused permission to attend in uniform.

”We’re going to ban all the sporting groups that follow rule changes to keep women safe.” is a fairly astonishing thing to say, let alone turn into a mission statement, but once again 🤷‍♀️

Really hoping the GAA - well, LGFA - cop on soon: they’ve an absolute nonsense of a policy that pretty much amounts to testosterone reduction & positive thinking. Obviously you’re not meant to belt the opposition (nor indeed your teammates) with your hurley in camoghie but accidents happen - & even a permitted contact tackle (you’re allowed to sort of bump sides with an opponent if they’ve the sliotar & it’s an attempt to gain possession; but you mustn’t be “aggressive or cynical”) would be very different coming from someone of the opposite sex.

Responses on Twitter to the BelTel article I posted suggested the organisers might be overestimating level of support.

I wonder how difficult Pride organizations are going to find it to turn away from these kinds of decisions, when it becomes clear how inappropriate they are?

In my town, the Pride group repudiated the local library, because they would not get rid of Shrier's book. Which of course shows a basic misunderstanding of the mission of libraries. The library itself bent over backwards to accommodate, even going so far as to include a bookmark with suggestions for other more :balanced" books with Shrier's book. (Which is totally inappropriate actually.)

Oh stop it @ LioLeary

It is perfectly clear what the poster is saying.

Thanks IamSTARVING. I appreciate that!

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I realise many people take no interest in sport whatsoever, but nevertheless, isn't it vanishingly unlikely that any adult in the UK "doesn't know what rugby is like"? It's on the telly, not just sport programmes, the national news during World Cups and Six Nations. And they don't know anyone, friends, family, colleagues, who play the sports or take in interest in them?

I took that comment to be a little tongue in cheek.

That being said, sometimes people who are very non-sporty don't really get the differernce between male and female performance. Like that woman talking about Serena Williams in the US.

Keep the stories coming. The froth expands as the lemmings run en masse to the cliff edge.

The public are being peaked. And the TRAs are peaking themselves.

Can any of them genuinely say that a decade ago they really we're happy to let hulking great men into women's sport to potentially seriously injure, and even kill?

I believe very very few. But the herd mentality and purity spirals are now so OTT and unhinged that it's now a badge of honour to accept nothing less than grinding girls and women into the ground.

I watch rugby (league) most weekends. Last weekend I watched both men and women playing live. The very idea of men (and some of those guys are 120 kg plus) playing against women is so clearly unconscionable, it's hard to imagine anyone would countenance such an idea.

Ahh but the right and feelings of trans men identifying as women and therefore the right to be included by playing women's rugby trumps the right of women players not to face serious physical injury potentially permanent by playing 120kg biological males.

Well as I understand it, the authorities in both rugby codes are clear that no men can play against women. And now, more girls are being encouraged to play, and the women's' game is taking off as it has in football. But who'd want their daughters playing against blokes?

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Thanks for explaining this so clearly. Given the lack of comeback from a poster who simply couldn’t let go before, I guess they aren’t totally comfortable admitting that yes they do think the pride organisers are misogynist shits and they’d like to continue policing mumsnet boards to defend the rights of pride organisers everywhere to be misogynist shits.
if you come back to this thread @LiOLeary please start here. Don’t come back and just pick new fights because you don’t want to address this.

Why is there no editing button on here?

@Grammarnut I'm not sure, but I think there is always a trade-off between letting people fix typos (a good thing) and allowing people to corrupt the conversation with back-edits after there have been replies (really bad thing). I just live with my typos and appreciate that the boards are a fixed record of what was posted at the time.