Actually looking forward to Pride this year

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In the report on the JSO protest on the BBC News site, Will De'Athe-Morris, from Pride in London is quoted as saying,
"Pride is a protest and pride is a celebration. We are protesting for LGBTQ+ rights and for our trans siblings in a separate march alone."

Can anyone work out what WDM meant?

All the worst people in the world are fighting and I’m here for it.

So sit infront of normal traffic and the police do nothing.

sit 8n front of a Pride March and the police arrest all protesters after 16 mins.

ok?

Why would a quote from a BBC news report be deleted?

And the words that were my own I have used in any number of threads, eg rainbow coalition.

Or is sarcasm now also being censored.

They’ve handed out some fairly hefty sentences to JSO protesters from what I recall. More than for many sexual assaults. The tories are also putting a bill through parliament curtailing the right to protest. So I’d be cautious thinking they have been treated differently today.

Yes but depends on the circumstances. Scale the dartford crossing, get arrested and go to prison, don’t even protest at the cor8nation get arrested, disrupt a Pride March and get arrested.

sit on the road in front of normal traffic only last week and nothing happens. Bystanders and motorists begging the police to do something and the police refuse. Only person arrested was a bystander who tried to drag someone off the road.

I genuinely didn't understand "We are protesting for LGBTQ+ rights and for our trans siblings in a separate march alone".

Given that T is included in LGBTQ+.

I'm not being sarky, I just don't know - is there a separate march from the Pride march today?

And how is any of that relevant to JSO's protest against Coca Cola?

I can't even parody this.

I think the Pride march in Manchester is at the end of August!

Fairly sure Leeds Pride is in August.

My local M&S (sorry, sometimes needs must) was banging on this afternoon about music especially chosen as it was by LGBTQIA+ Artists.

It goes on and on.

Rich double-barrelled named young adults versus...um...themselves?

It really is the word which we are not allowed to say eating the word we are not allowed to day.

Lately I've been reading about the factions in French politics before, during and after the Revolution.

Also rewatching Life of Brian.

As a couple of PP have pointed out, 16-18 mins to be arrested and carted off is considerably quicker than the Police’s normal response times to date.

And I have to say, I think the protestors made some valid points about Pride allowing polluting companies to pink-wash their reputations through sponsorship and flag waving.

About time the police went the full Orgreave with all the middle class wasters, they have batons/truncheons and they should use them but no doubt young jeremy/jemimas' parents are besties with the chief constable!

That made me laugh.

"We are protesting for LGBTQ+ rights and for our trans siblings in a separate march alone".

In the longer quote I got from the BBC (cant be bothered to find it) and I will try and say this as neutrally as possible as I dont was another deletion - the man quoted was saying Pride should only be about Pride. ie it is inappropriate for the JSO to use it to raise other issues (criticise them).

Although many people have questioned the inclusion of corporates in Pride for some time, but from the perspective of its not very revolutionary, rather than not very green.

(But agree with all the comments about how swiftly the police acted compared to poor commuters, let alone ambulances, trying to get on with their lives.)

"No, it will be the vulnerable who suffer first: the disabled, the young, and the elderly and infirm.*"
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In fairness, given how they're experimentally butchering young healthy bodies in the name of inclusion and kindness, there will be plenty of disabled and infirm in their number unfortunately.

I expected my straight friends to always come to Pride - this year, just one is

Six years later, just one friend is coming with me to Pride in London today. I know that people make plans way ahead in advance and some might be on holiday, but I can’t help but wonder if people just don’t support the cause in the way they used to.

And I’m not the only person that feels this way. A gay man and trans woman I regularly see at Pride events will be travelling as a party of two this year, whereas they are usually also joined by straight and cis friends.

In the years since my starting party of eight has fluctuated as I’ve attended Pride events. But a strong three or four of my closest friends always jump at the chance to don their brightest apparel and celebrate love in the streets.

When I realised it was just one this year, I felt disappointed, my heart sunk. That’s because – now more than ever – I think we need our allies to show up for us.

I expected my straight friends to always come to Pride - this year, just one is (msn.com)

I'm only posting this because there seems to be a huge gap in the writer's expectations that other people's lives should centre round him, but he never indicates (as he might have done) that he has turned up for a women's demonstration, or one for disabled people. Intentionally or not, he conveys the prevelant notion that they are the cerntre of the universe and everyone else's lives are secondary.

(I did try and comment on line, but MSN just says the app that lets me sign up isn't working. There was so much I wanted to say to him!)

I did comment on the article eventually as it worked in a different browser(?).

Anyhow, was very respectful, maybe bit bit young and niave to think friends would go on being his personal support group for ever.

Added a bit about how different Pride was from Gay Liberation and the issue wasn't all about glitter and rainbows.

And he should be aware that the actions of some of trans activists was alienating many, especially concerned about women's rights. And that many lesbians and gay men did not identify with Pride.

Not sure how long it was but long enough to get a few likes etc..

Then I got a message saying my comment had broken community standards and been deleted.

Shocked? Not really. But if my comment was against community standards then it means this publication would never have an article about gender critical feminists or LGB Alliance.

The great success of the Stonewall campaigns — I was one of the charity’s six co-founders in 1989 — came from creating a shared goal with the rest of society. The wider population agreed that it was damaging to democracy and all of us for any one group of people to be discriminated against under the law. The accomplishment was not just to right a wrong, but to create a platform from which lesbians and gays could contribute fully to a society in which we all could live well together.

But for those born male now to push themselves into women’s sport, spaces and services was never the intention of the Gender Recognition Act. It was to give dignity to people whose lives would be immeasurably improved, psychologically and socially, if they took the enormous step of transition. Society responded by accepting that shared goal and the contract which that implied. But activists are trying to trash that social bond which was created by their own campaigning legacy.

By trying to copy the successes of the lesbian and gay movement, transactivists misunderstand their own history and drag trans people into the unwelcome glare of exposure. They should be unsurprised that the rest of society is now pushing back — and that the LGB seeks separation from the T.

Simon Fanshawe https://unherd.com/2023/06/idewhat-trans-people-really-wantthe-silence-of-the-trans/