Hospital prayer room for gravely ill children plastered with LGBT flags

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A hospital prayer room for gravely ill children and their families has been plastered with LGBT flags amid claims that the NHS is being hijacked by transgender ideology.

As part of a new inclusivity drive, a “sanctuary” at Edinburgh’s “Sick Kids” hospital, designed as a quiet space for those suffering trauma and grief, was taken over by symbols representing dozens of sexualities and genders.

The “spiritual care” facility previously described as offering room for “quiet reflection, prayer or meditation” was also rebranded a “chill-out zone” for Pride month, with rainbow-coloured signage directing patients and relatives to it.

The move has outraged some staff and family members of poorly children, with one clinician claiming a leading children’s hospital had been turned into a “social issues battlefield”.

Meanwhile, the family of a terminally ill toddler said they were no longer able to use the room to find comfort in their faith as it had become a “display of activism” which contradicted the teachings of mainstream religions.

The chaplaincy service at the hospital, one of the UK’s leading centres for paediatric care, is run by Maxwell Reay, a transgender man and activist who belongs to a fringe Christian congregation in Edinburgh.

Mr Reay, who has described being trans as a “gift from God”, is facing claims that he has breached rules which state hospital chaplains should not seek to impose their own beliefs when offering spiritual care.

Extracts from a Telegraph article reprinted in full by yahoo news https://uk.style.yahoo.com/hospital-prayer-room-gravely-ill-165852417.html

Scotland sure looks like it is trying to out pride everyone else!

Correct, the only campaigns or causes visible in hospitals should be ones to do with specifically supporting people served by the hospital, fundraising for equipment etc. Not politics and culture wars.

So consider for a minute whether they are really 'far right nut jobs' or just sensible people who think for themselves who happen to be 'centre right' rather than 'centre left.' Some of us even switch sides as we age.
'Far right' is just an insult used by the left and vice versa.
Free speech does tend to be more of a right wing feature and as we have all learnt from TQ+ overreach, free speech is important or no one can fight back against this widespread institutional capture. I will vote Conservative at the next election on free speech alone even though they have been crap.

I'd rip it down

If someone describes people whose politics they don't agree with as "right-wing nut jobs" that tells me all I need to know about that person.

Thankyou, that was a worthwhile ten minutes. Not that I expect it to make a difference, I imagine my thoughtful responses ( they were actually) will be deleted because they are bound to upset who ever is reading them and make them feel actually threatened and unloved. All I said was that I imagine LGB parents with a sick child have more to worry about than misplaced pronouns and stereotypical manifestations declaring other peoples mythical gender identity.

What a disgrace. I feel so sorry for families going there in desperate need of solace or a few minutes of peace, and facing what is now a highly politicised display.

I am sorry, but I said far right specifically, not "right wing". The far right are not just people whose politics I disagree with, I am not talking centre right or Tories, much as I have little in common with them and wouldn't want to break bread with them. I mean the real far right, like fascists, MRA, science deniers, some sections of USA evangelicals etc. That's who I meant. I'd still say nutjobs as a shorthand. And I still find myself on the same side of them in the trans culture war, which is not something I ever thought would happen.

Sorry. "Far right nut jobs". Still says more about you than them.

It says that I think that many people on the far right are mentally compromised in one way or another, sure (not talking about mental illness, I wouldn't use a flippant term like that about mental illness). Nothing more or less than that. But this is off-topic now so let's stop.

To be fair though there are right wing nutjobs. There is also right wing non-nut jobs. Just as there are left wing nut jobs and left wing non nutty types. And the mildly nutty but not full squirrel poo levels.

My DH would probably describe me as a left wing nutjob. Probably fair enough at times, I do get pretty heated about stuff (present topic included).

To be honest, I don't like it being a prayer room either. Or spiritual care. The one at our local hospital is called a "Contemplation Space"

So “I am so very sorry your three year old child is dying, but to make you feel better isn’t it wonderful that someone you have never met but who has been caught up in a ridiculous campaign of disinformation promoted by cynics, feels joyful today knowing that they will not be misgendered by accident should they ever enter this space.”

Others have made points about association of idea - here's my two penn'orth.

St Thomas' hospital in London is the one right opposite the Houses of Parliament & Big Ben, so on the south side of Westminster Bridge, near the old GLC building, the London Eye etc etc. All very iconic.

When the women's health department (as it was then called, god knows what they may have been obliged to rename it by now) was rebuilt 20+ years ago, the decision was made to site the SANDS (sudden neonatal death) unit on the opposite side of the building from the HoP, & Big Ben, the bridge, the river etc. precisely because they didn't want patients on the SANDS unit for ever after associating those famous images with what was possibly worst time of their life.

And here we are, with a famous children's hospital appearing to want to have families associate the alphabet soup with trauma. Which goes to show that the chaplain knows nothing of human nature and should be considering their future. As should whoever permitted this monstrous self-indulgent behaviour in the first place.

This a million times. It's always, always 'yeah, but...' (if a situation is even acknowledged and not denied or handwaved away). Even with absolutely undeniably awful situations or events.

Why doesn't someone just take them down, for fucks sake.

I cant be bothered to read the article again but am pretty sure they have been taken down under the guise that they were only having a Pride week, rather than the Pride month everyone else is being subjected to.

I suspect it got taken down because outraged parents couldn't help but complain about the truely heartless intrusion on a small place of sanctury, by self absorbed egotists.

Just awful. What an intrusion.

But children are identifying as animals in schools. Just today someone was telling me about a child she knows who has decided they are a unicorn aged 9. The teacher is being forced to take this seriously and address him and treat him as a unicorn. Some of us were laughing derisively at this but one person in the group sat pofaced , obviously feeling we were being very politically incorrect. It really is the Emperors New Clothes. Intelligent mature people are being expected to swallow this twaddle.

The story about he hospice is appalling and the chaplain should be sacked.

How come a hospital appointed someone from a fringe church, let alone someone who thinks trans is a gift from god.

Looks like Reay is from a URC church, which is quite a mainstream albeit smaller denomination www.augustine.org.uk/about-us/whos-who/

Which makes it worse, really.

Not that mainstream. Apparently they celebrated a Day of Visibility for Trans People in March, ( because Pride Month isn’t enough?) at which event Reay blessed oil, and glitter.

Now speaking as a non believer I have enough problems understanding the significance of transubstantiation when applied to bread and wine in the RC communion, but for the life of me I can’t believe that Jesus also blessed pots of glitter at the last supper and asked the disciples to take it and apply it in his name.

Also, glitter is difficult to get rid of from soft furnishings and is terrible for the environment. Kind of like TRAs, when you like about it.

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I suppose that’s where glitter problems started , there weren’t many soft furnishings around In fishing and woodworking communities at that time, so no one realised what an issue it would be 2000 years later when our homes are filled with glitter attracting surfaces. Plus environmental concerns weren’t as widely known about, apart from random plagues of locusts and flies which were largely put down to vengeful divine retribution rather than human mismanagement.