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John Money and Transgenderism - Daily Mail article

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SallyLockheart · 26/06/2023 05:22

Haven’t seen a thread on this - daily mail have written about John Money and his experiment on the Reimer twins - why he did it and the tragic outcomes plus what motivated him to do it. Details the abuse he made those children suffer and his “special interests”. Many on this board know about John Money but it’s good to see it out there on a popular site - DM continues its campaigning!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12232885/The-spiritual-father-trans-movement-Dr-John-Money-twisted-experiment.html

The spiritual father of trans movement John Money and his experiment

The identical Reimer twins - Bruce and Brian - born in 1965, were subject to twisted experiments after a botched circumcision led to Bruce - renamed Brenda - having a vulva fashioned by John Money.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12232885/The-spiritual-father-trans-movement-Dr-John-Money-twisted-experiment.html

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nepeta · 28/06/2023 20:55

@DemiColon

So you see the discussion for example of the fact that very egalitarian countries tend to have a greater split in the workforce between male and female dominated professions. We've had that plenty of times on this board. And the gc position is always dominated by the claim that this is somehow due to gender stereotyping that is just very subtle.

The other interpretation that you will see people make is that this may be due to real differences in male and female interests that manifest at the population level - so when people have a lot of freedom to choose their work based on their interests, you see this division emerge more strongly than in places where choices tend to reward male dominated sectors more.

There's a different, methodological criticism of that argument which is important to take into account as the bit about more gender-egalitarian countries being more split into male and female professions is based on one study and that study created a new indicator of egalitarianism, one not used elsewhere.

For more on this, a simple explanation can be found here https://www.genderscilab.org/blog/gender-equality-paradox-monkey-business-or-how-to-tell-spurious-causal-stories-about-nation-level-achievement-by-women-in-stem, and the longer paper here https://scholar.harvard.edu/srichard/publications/there-gender-equality-paradox-science-technology-engineering-and-math-stem.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/srichard/publications/there-gender-equality-paradox-science-technology-engineering-and-math-stem

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