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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender idetnity and cultural / social norms and expectations

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Freefall212 · 25/06/2023 07:42

I have always thought of gender as being a socio-cultural concept based on how one views themselves within the social and cultural context they live in. For example, for me being a tomboy in a very traditionally gender roled family and religious community was gender non conforming as I didn't follow the gender roles or gender expectations of my social context. I wasn't feminine and I didn't act or dress in the way that was expected of young girls. It had nothing to do with sex at all. However now I rarely see socio-cultural norms and context and gender roles / expectations attached to gender conversations. Gender identity seems to now be more connected to a vague notion of what it means to be a certain sex. I don't know when this changed. I was looking up definitions and came across this one on gender identity. This fits more with my view of it. Curious to get the thoughts of others.

https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/917990-overview

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AmuseBish · 25/06/2023 08:26

Yes , trans used to mean that you wanted to be the opposite sex. It all got very muddled when people insisted they were the opposite gender, which sometimes they want to mean the same thing as sex and sometimes don't, but won't be honest and explain exactly what they mean.

To think a set of personality characteristics is what makes you a man or a woman is exclusionary in my opinion, and harmful because it reinforces the old-fashioned and conservative notion that female people have this kind of brain, and male people have that kind of brain, so if your brain doesn't fit, your body is wrong.

Started to gain traction in the last ten years. "Female" and "feminine" mean different things and you can obviously be one without being the other. The genderists strongly imply (but are not honest enough to say) that being one requires being the other.

Ingenieur · 25/06/2023 08:36

I agree with most of what you say, apart from the assertion that gender is about how an individual views herself.

I think it's a more general thing, and indeed the opposite, insofar that gender is the stereotypes/ roles/ behaviours that society expects of an individual based on their sex.

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