We’re Being Erased

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The website lunette.com describes women (well I’m assuming they’re talking about women) as “menstruating humans”.

Why are we being erased? It’s foul.

Welcome. Get wine, read, get fricken furious. Get more wine.

We’re doomed as a sex right? What was feminism even for since we no longer exist.

I've just started taking the piss now. After the non-man debacle of last week, I've been greeting my sensible friends with "Greetings, my good non-man!" It's the only way I can cope with it.

I'm not a menstruating human as I'm post-menopausal. Am I no longer a woman?

Please remind me exactly who is obsessed with genitals.

Well that makes no sense when some of these clowns say they menstruate too. Can't have it both ways

Why don't they just call us C**ts if that's all we are to them. Don't buy their stuff. Nauseating.

I've decided to question this (to the be kind brigade) in terms of humans, as a species, being bi-pedal. It doesn't make Adam Hills (v. much twaw) a pogo stick, nor Alex Brooker a cushion. Words have meaning, and woman is taken.

I have seen a woman on Reels who does "saucy history" stuff - she's a senior academic. She says that cunt used to be the normal, non-expletive, word for female genitalia, and remains pretty much the only term which does not reference men. Vagina is the Latin for sword sheath.

A lot of women don't even understand what feminism is. It has been deliberately misrepresented; ugly, man hating, old women etc.
Women like Lorraine have fallen into the trap of thinking feminine means docile, nurturing, doormat. We are expected to care for everyones needs but our own. eg. Lia Thomas's hopes and dreams more important than the 8 real females in the pool.
Men support each other. Too many women sell us out. That's the root of the problem.

Their (global) website also talks about 'teens with uteruses', 'young menstruators', and about how there is a PINK tax on 'people with uteruses'. It's all hilariously funny as they tie themselves into knots to be gender-neutral but also to somehow not be gender-neutral at all.

Like that pink tax thing (https://www.lunette.com/pages/activism
). Why call that tax pink?

It links to the idea of pink for pink fluffy empathising girl brains (like in the trans flag), blue for sharp systematising boy brains (like in the trans flag), but this is then smashed together with gender-neutrality and the outcome makes no sense. Like in this bit:

Research has found that femininely branded products ‘aimed at women’ ie. clothes, deodorants, razors and shower gels are more expensive than those ‘aimed at men’ and branded masculinely. This not only highlights how ridiculous it is to have a gender binary when it comes to something as simple as cleaning ourselves but that once again the people not aligned with the traditionally masculine way of doing things are missing out.

That way of looking at the question excludes those trans men who still menstruate. They certainly want to come across as masculine he-men and not as feminine people paying that pink tax!

And all the nonbinary female people whose desires are important in determining the language that we are allowed to use, they are not going to like being told about still belonging to the group which has to pay the pink tax.

They are trying to do something which just can't be done:

No wonder menstruation is so taboo, people are afraid to talk about the body! ...
If more schools and parents had open, clear conversations about how the reproductive system works, society wouldn’t be sexualizing vaginas, don’t you think?

It's really hard to talk about the body when we are not allowed to have a name for the group of people who possess the kind of body which typically menstruates over some time span. And it's dehumanising to be turned into owners of some body parts (people with uteruses) or performers of one bodily function (menstruators), the way that website does.

And to answer the question by OP (why we are being erased), this is Lunette's answer:

Not all women menstruate and not all people who menstruate are women. No matter how you identify, we welcome you with open arms. Lunette is here to provide gender-neutral guidance and support for all things bodies and periods so you can bleed with confidence.

They have repurposed 'women' so that it now has no connection to being of the female sex but refers to identifyin with (accepting) sexist stereotypes about femininity.

Once you do that, then of course there are menstruators and uterus-havers who do not 'identify' as spinny-skirt-loving-high-heels-wearing-sexual-masochists which seems to be the new definition of 'women'.

This was interesting to learn thanks for sharing.

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We're not being erased, I find this so ridiculous when I read it.
I don't stop being any less of a woman by accepting trans people exist.

Not all women menstruate and not all people who menstruate are women
That just means no, all women don't menstruate (as some aren't able to) and trans men (ie people who were.born female and have transitioned )
Can't get worked up personally

It's bonkers that, when describing the 'gender pain gap', they are at pains to distance themselves from the historical use of the word 'woman' -yet if the research had not looked at women versus men's pain, we would not know there's a gap. So stupid that they don't even realise they are campaigning for a system which hides that kind of gap.

It means that the category 'women' now has nothing to do with being an adult of the female sex. So what does it mean now? When we ask that we are told that the mere asking is a dogwhistle, but given that we are all now ordered to have identities and our embodied identities are no longer respected but invalidated, the question is crucial and needs an answer.

All the answers I have seen are either empirically empty, circular, or define the word with retrogressive and sexist stereotypes.

Another provoking article from Mary Harrington.........When 'woman' is detached from biological reality and in particular from the reality of pregnancy and childbirth then ultimately woman becomes nothing more than a universal concept of passivity and fuckability - that anyone can access:

https://open.substack.com/pub/reactionaryfeminist/p/which-orifice-what-organs-who-cares?r=clsg2&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

I find this so ridiculous when I read it

Same when it read ‘menstruating human’

Completely ridiculous. Women and girls is fine.

Keep saying no in whatever way you can. Young girls are doing it too now. It ain’t over yet

But the reality of womanhood which is rooted in the sexed body is - and whilst it may not have impacted upn you too much at present; at some stage it will dawn on you how your existence as a human female has been side-lined and obscured by the insiustence that being a woman has got nothing to do with your body, or with your essential dignity and integrity as an adult human female.

So when you are coerced into having to celebrate a male person being lauded as a woman in a female category; or when your daughter is forced to share her facilities with adult men or boys; or when you are expected to eliminate any words which you naturally reach for to describe your experienece and life as a woman....you may begin to see it.

I'd genuinely be interested to hear from thise women who claim that their existence as an adult human female is not threatened by trans ideology - what do they think it is that makes them say, with so much certainty, that are a woman in the first place?

I saw a nice summer top in M&S when I was heading to the food court this week. Just went online to buy it. Discovered it listed under women - dresses. But modelled on male bodies. WHY?

Should have said summer dress not top!

To the people saying this is not erasure and is just trans friendly language , could you please explain why this language isn’t being used for male products ? I’m not seeing , for example, condom companies inform us that “not everyone who ejaculates is male, and not all males can ejaculate” and calling their customers “ejaculators”. I saw a poster for a prostate cancer charity the other day which cajoled me to “save men”: why the lack of inclusivity here? Not all men have prostates and not all prostate owners are men. I would find it easier to believe this was about equality in language and not destruction of women as a class if it was also happening to the men.