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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

9th grade lesson in Canada. Extraordinary

18 replies

ResisterRex · 23/06/2023 08:42

This is quite the thread. The situation seems to be ongoing, and their education minister has suspended the ability of Planned Parenthood to present in schools. It also appears that a police report has been filed.

Some of the material sounds similar to what we've seen here (the dice game for example). Is there an "instruction manual" circulating among the English-speaking world or something?

Absolutely no thought appears to have been given to children who've been sexually abused, who would doubtless be traumatised by these kinds of lessons. And no thought at all given as to the wellbeing and safe development of children full stop.

twitter.com/xxclusionary/status/1672009544178839558?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

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turbonerd · 23/06/2023 08:55

Oh.
I wish I hadn’t clicked on it.

Now I feel a little bit ill.

I know many kids watch a lot of hardcore porn from an early age. But why would anyone want to ADD to that?

There are a lot of much better ways to talk about sex with the teenagers than this horror -slide show.

What about trying to counter porn by talking about sex as a mutually enjoyable thing? Talk about enthusiastic consent, about how to look after yourself?

RoyalCorgi · 23/06/2023 09:03

If I'd been exposed to that material at that age, I think it would have put me off sex for life.

GrabbyGabby · 23/06/2023 09:29

What age is 9th grade?

titchy · 23/06/2023 09:34

GrabbyGabby · 23/06/2023 09:29

What age is 9th grade?

Same as year 9 I think - 13/14 year olds

SabrinaThwaite · 23/06/2023 09:34

GrabbyGabby · 23/06/2023 09:29

What age is 9th grade?

14 - 15 I think?

terryleather · 23/06/2023 09:34

Apart from the obvious and epic safeguarding fail and all the other criticisms that could be levelled at this , I'm struck by how that a-z seems very male focused. What a surprise...

ZeldaFighter · 23/06/2023 09:59

When I did my safeguarding training (+ DBS check obvs) to be a volunteer helper at swimming lessons, I was trained that inappropriate sexual knowledge, beyond the age range of the child, can be a sign of sexual abuse.

How can you guard against abuse if you're the ones teaching the children these things???

I actually thought Planned Parenthood were a responsible organisation 😞

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 23/06/2023 10:04

@RoyalCorgi I think that is one of the puzzle pieces of the rise in ROGD in girls.

If they get it into their head that 'girls like it' that to be a 'cis woman' means being treated 'like this' feels natural and right and that their horror and revulsion are not a perfectly natural and appropriate response.

e.g. in this Guardian article " Choking in sex is a kink. Yet it has somehow made its way under the mainstream umbrella of things that many young people assume are OK to do without consent – often the first time you’re sexually involved with them."...[one study found] "58% of female college students have been choked during sex"

I'm misquoting someone but please correct me and tell me who if you remember

It is the shame of our society that so many girls would desperately seek a cure for being female. It is the scandal of the Tavistock that it claimed to be able to provide one.

N4ish · 23/06/2023 10:22

I agree, I think it must be terrifying to be a young teenage girl exposed to such explicit sexual content. And to feel there’s something wrong with you if you can’t bear the thought of your body being involved in such extreme acts. No wonder some girls reject the whole idea of womanhood.

uglyswan · 23/06/2023 10:25

Beside the point, but the "lesbian=vagitarian" definition is interesting. Surprised that got past the censors...

Noicant · 23/06/2023 10:40

Definitely would have chosen celibacy if I thought having sex involved any of that. This is just destroying children’s boundaries.

CurseYouPerryThePlatypus · 23/06/2023 18:09

terryleather · 23/06/2023 09:34

Apart from the obvious and epic safeguarding fail and all the other criticisms that could be levelled at this , I'm struck by how that a-z seems very male focused. What a surprise...

That was my thought too. It’s a horrible set of cards anyway but it is all about the dick isn’t it. Never mind pleasure for girls, they’re just vessels. It did say something about being aimed at gay, bi and queer young people so that doesn’t say it’s only for boys.

CurseYouPerryThePlatypus · 23/06/2023 18:12

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 23/06/2023 10:04

@RoyalCorgi I think that is one of the puzzle pieces of the rise in ROGD in girls.

If they get it into their head that 'girls like it' that to be a 'cis woman' means being treated 'like this' feels natural and right and that their horror and revulsion are not a perfectly natural and appropriate response.

e.g. in this Guardian article " Choking in sex is a kink. Yet it has somehow made its way under the mainstream umbrella of things that many young people assume are OK to do without consent – often the first time you’re sexually involved with them."...[one study found] "58% of female college students have been choked during sex"

I'm misquoting someone but please correct me and tell me who if you remember

It is the shame of our society that so many girls would desperately seek a cure for being female. It is the scandal of the Tavistock that it claimed to be able to provide one.

I was at a pride-based market stall the other day and my daughter (previously captured but definitely more aware that it’s about far more than pronouns now) pointed out a “choke me” badge, she was disgusted and said why is it that wearing this stuff is ok. We’d had a discussion last week about how kink is taking over pride (thankfully not our local one which she’s happily been to before) and she’s so angry about it. (She’s nearly 16)

CurseYouPerryThePlatypus · 23/06/2023 18:13

Incidentally there were also bracelets with letter beads spelling such delights as “I love anal” and “bucket fanny”

charming 🙄

AspiringChatBot · 23/06/2023 18:15

Those A-Z cards look like a collab among the wondrous and varied members (literally) of Reddit's 'mensrights', 'incels', and 'MGTOW' subs - all writing with one hand.

nepeta · 23/06/2023 19:36

There are now things I wish I had never learned about! I agree with others here that those cards are very male-centred (penis-haver-centred, in inclusive language), focused on what might best prepare young people to satisfy the more extreme types of male kinks by seeing them as something routine and expected.

I also agree with those who shudder when thinking about being a young girl today, with misogynist porn being the first type of sex education many children get. I'm pretty sure that I would have sworn into life-long celibacy if I were in those shoes today.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 23/06/2023 22:23

@CurseYouPerryThePlatypus yes it doesn't feel like pride is really about the same things it used to be when ' I'm a female homosexual' is going to get you told you should be ashamed of yourself

TheBiologyStupid · 23/06/2023 22:48

I saw this on another thread. Absolutely unbelievable - and inexcusable.

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