Transgenderism as a religion

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Worth a watch. The movment as a political religion amd stepping stone (?)to trans humanism.

I have heard it in religious circles, they want to start erasing boundaries in what we know, then to merge humans forcefully with AI, etc etc

Without even having watched the video, transgenderism is absolutely a neo-religion. We've been saying so on MN FWR for years.

It requires belief in a 'soul' - gender.

It has a catechism - TWAW, NBIAV, etc

It has a philosophy akin to Alistair Crowley's neo-religion, Thelema, of Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law - "We only want to pee in peace - Be Kind! (But only to believers.)"

It punishes apostates - detransitioners.

It differentiate between believers and unbelievers - trans v 'cis'.

It gives special status to its laity - allies - over unbelievers but below true believers.

Believers who undergo initiation rituals - sex mimicry surgery/drugs - gain superior status.

And, of course, it requires unquestioning acceptance of unprovable statements - born this way/wrong body/puberty blockers are reversible/better a live 'daughter' than a dead son/etc.

Don't forget all the holy days, and the symbolism of mastectomy scars being displayed like stigmata in Instagram posts or ads for 'edgy' fashion brands.

Also the eagerness for martyrs, the celebration of persecution and the holy days (like Transgender Day of Remembrance) or weeks (Pride), and the omnipresent symbol of the flag. Plus the demonisation of critics as evil incarnate, and the emphasis on repentance and forgiveness on the rare occasion that a GC person becomes a TRA. Those who go the other way (including detransitioners) are apostates to be hated.

It most definitely is a religion. An extremely intolerant one of disbelievers at that.

Collette did a great podcast on Heterodorx when they were debating was is a religion. It is really worth a listen

open.spotify.com/episode/3M0mHateCrv6feY7dT6EWk?si=aBQtvRM4SkeF9cCK7629SQ

Its a religion that believes in a God that gives people the wrong bodies.

Is this a warped evil deity or one that just meases up occasionally ?

I have to listen to that.
I've a religion; I'm a pagan and really enjoy it.
We have great holidays; Saturnalia is the best.
And the best part is we're all pretty cheerful and no one has to cut off their tits...

The Wicker Woman.

ROFL! 😂

A lot of the "culture wars" IMO are very much akin to a religious conflict, where two separate worldviews are battling for social dominance, including state sanction.

People are stuck on the idea that religion has to include something like a concept of God, but of course it really doesn't. In needs some kind of metaphysics, an ethics, and a set of practices or rituals, which can be pretty low key potentially. It needs to have some kind of group identity element.

Lots of people have argued that Marxism is a religion, or secular humanism, and I think that's quite a strong argument. Whatever larger picture gender ideology fits into seems to be as well. John McWhorter has talked about antiracism/wokism (for want of a better word) as being very much like a religion as well, and I think they are really part of the same ideology.

The western answer to allow pluralism was secularism, which isn't to say anti-religion, but the state having a certain kind of separation from it. Because people think that these are non-religious systems though, they think it is ok for the state to adopt and promote them. But that is what is driving a lot of social conflict now and the attacks on liberal democracy.

As someone with a strong interest in religion (though not religious myself) I think her analysis is terrible. It’s just another political/cultural movement. Yes a toxic one but a religion? Give me a break.

In the name of the unholy trinity, that places souls in the wrong body,
TWAW, TMAN and NBAV!

Huge similarities

I think humans just like to “other”

i see the trans brigade as more cult-ish to be honest.

https://newdiscourses.com/2023/02/gnosticism-in-the-modern-west/

...“gnosticism” and unmasks what amounts to a huge “New Age” movement in the Middle Ages as the source of a thread of Gnostic c* belief that has shaped every facet of the West for at least the last three hundred years. He also explains how the shift from the Middle Ages to the Modern period included a shift in the Gnostic project, out of overt spiritualism and into exactly those society-building realms of economics, sociology, and politics.

Trans race and curries according to Starker is apparently ridiculous, yet a man becoming a woman is not. I suggest Starmer is a Gnostic. What was that I hear about opium?

*furries

https://newdiscourses.com/2023/01/gnosticism-modern-and-postmodern/

Gnosticism is one of the ancient “Esoteric” religions that has spawned c, some weird and some dangerous, since Antiquity.

This is a shorter podcast.

It also has a Great Schism. Some members of the church say you don't need the Sacraments- the drugs and surgery - to be saved from the Original Sin of wrong sex. All you need is faith!

These reformers actually condemn the old elite as ' Tru-scum'. It's not clear yet who will win this argument. Perhaps the Reformation will be taken to the conclusion its logic points to . There is no biology ergo there are no real humans ; it's all an illusion of this fallen world. Only the digital world is real and Rothblatt is the Messiah ?

Someone erudite on Twitter said something about the more absurd religious debates of the Middle Ages (wasn’t the big debate staged in In The Name of the Rose about whether or not Jesus owned his sandals?) and how incomprehensible they are to us today, and yet here we are, in a position where we have to argue against true believers that men are not women.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+16&version=NIV

The destransitioned autistic child is to be abandoned with the sins of the sacred castes of the AGP and FII activists/ professionals as their scapegoat.

The surgeon's curtain, blood, linen for post surgery bandages etc.

It has been said that to shut down the child's hypothalamus, which controls emotions, sexuality, and the aesthetic sence, is to shut down what makes us human.

In the following I am questioning, not dehumanising people.

So if trans rights are human rights, what are trans? Why do they need human rights if they are not human, what other inanimate object of animal can obtain humans rights? How can you take away the human in someone to make them not a human?

This is mentioned in the talk set up by the Rothblatts. Core tenets of transhumanism.

https://terasemfaith.net/beliefs/

I'd call it Genderism, without the trans. It demands we all join it - we have to choose between being trans or cis, we can't just be people. It certainly works the way belief-based groups operating under authoritarian charismatic leadership always do. There's a short word for that, but we aren't allowed to use it.

Religions - big ones - tend to be much more fluid, with core beliefs, sure, but lots and lots of debate and dispute and challenge and growth within that. They also have deep roots. Even the newest religions around, like Mormons or Wicca have roots in earlier traditions. It's possibly nearer Scientology in its commercialism, and that is not generally accepted as a religion.

How can you take away the human in someone to make them not a human?

Menstruator, bleeder, gestational carrier, vagina-haver, etc.

Yes, McWhorter published some early drafts on his Substack of what became his book Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America.