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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS - gender assigned at birth

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mauveiscurious · 19/06/2023 21:01

During a hospital visit today I was handed a questionnaire asking "if I was the same gender as assigned at birth"

I thought sex was observed at birth.

I was also asked if I identify as a Woman (including trans woman)

I find this type of language odd and inappropriate in a medical setting, surely sex is important for all types of treatment.

Why is this important for the NHS?

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EnfysPreseli · 19/06/2023 21:07

Sounds like a form or a survey being used as a vehicle for indoctrination. Even if you don't understand what they're on about and it has little impact on your treatment, giving it NHS branding would make you assume it's scientifically accurate and medically relevant. Pure propaganda, because any data it gathers will be unreliable and meaningless.

BabyStopCryin · 19/06/2023 21:08

I refuse to play these days. Especially in a medical setting - don’t mess with sick people.

FannyCann · 19/06/2023 21:20

Were you there as a visitor or for an appointment/treatment OP?
Either way I'd be taking the opportunity of free text to dribble out the ridiculous questions and write something along the lines of Conceived female, born female, I am female. Humans can't change sex whatever identity they think they have.
Don't stand for this nonsense.

mauveiscurious · 19/06/2023 21:24

It's depressing

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PronounsBaby · 20/06/2023 07:14

You should cross it out and correct it.
I often do. If asked what my gender is: male or female I put in 'other' my sex is female.

Backstreets · 20/06/2023 07:20

I’m a manager and recently rejected an offer of a Stonewall type scheme to educate all employees on gender expressions and sexuality and blah blah. It’s becoming glaringly obvious who has had corporate reeducation. Feel sorry for the employees having to toe the line.

booksandcats22 · 20/06/2023 07:24

I think it's really weird description "assigned at birth" makes me think someone holds the child up and asks what the mother wants it to be, even "observed" seems odd because most people choose to know what they're having before the child is born what was wrong with just being either male or female without any reference to assign or observe

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 20/06/2023 07:28

I might sue the NHS for forgetting to assign my gender when I was born. They didn't assign my DCs either, maybe I'll encourage them to do the same.

FrancescaContini · 20/06/2023 08:12

Why does a publicly funded health service that, this winter just gone, saw severely ill patients lying on beds in corridors and waiting for hours outside hospitals in ambulances choose to waste precious money and resources on rephrasing stock questions (“Are you male or female?” / “What’s your sex?”) in order to align itself with a bullshit, nonsensical ideology?

FannyCann · 20/06/2023 08:13

Backstreets · 20/06/2023 07:20

I’m a manager and recently rejected an offer of a Stonewall type scheme to educate all employees on gender expressions and sexuality and blah blah. It’s becoming glaringly obvious who has had corporate reeducation. Feel sorry for the employees having to toe the line.

Is that in the NHS?

Well done wherever you are. Star

PatatiPatatras · 20/06/2023 08:58

It's not just gender this "be kind" nonsense is playing into. I got a diabetes leaflet after an annual test and I could not figure out if I was diabetic, pre-diabetic or not diabetic because it spent an amazing amount of time being kind to me but im not sure why! Just spit it out! And if I'm the kind of person who lets go because they are not diabetic then I need to grow up... it was so weird.

ArabeIIaScott · 20/06/2023 09:13

EnfysPreseli · 19/06/2023 21:07

Sounds like a form or a survey being used as a vehicle for indoctrination. Even if you don't understand what they're on about and it has little impact on your treatment, giving it NHS branding would make you assume it's scientifically accurate and medically relevant. Pure propaganda, because any data it gathers will be unreliable and meaningless.

Yep.

Backstreets · 20/06/2023 09:22

FannyCann · 20/06/2023 08:13

Is that in the NHS?

Well done wherever you are. Star

I’m in the culture sector so it was a pretty superfluous offer to begin with! The NHS and anything health or youth related are the ones who really need a reality check though, as it actively degrades their services to pretend gender trumps sex

ScrollingLeaves · 20/06/2023 12:39

In this video a US doctor, who is a testifying witness in some capacity, is brilliantly objecting to the use “sex assigned at birth”. It comes as her opening line so you don’t need to watch it all.

https://twitter.com/JeremyShawMD/status/1669109860091281408

https://twitter.com/JeremyShawMD/status/1669109860091281408

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