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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Where did the trans-inclusive language go?

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Knickerbockergrolia · 19/06/2023 17:04

Had an all staff work email today to say EDI data capture was being updated to include more inclusive language and options, so could we (voluntarily) update our profiles. I logged in (to enter something belligerent about my 'gender identity'), only to find it is not asked anywhere. There are new categories for ethnicities and sexual orientation, but conspicuously NOTHING about gender.

Anyone like to hazard a guess as to why? Am I being overly optimistic to think it's because everyone is over this gender identity guff now and we can all go back to normal?!

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ArabeIIaScott · 19/06/2023 19:05

Hear that faint scrabbling noise? The sound of a thousand ferrets trying to reverse as quietly as possible.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 19/06/2023 19:16

Hmmm, what? Gender you say? No idea what you mean...

Reminds me of that joke about the Wide Mouthed Frog (puckers lips, 'You don't see many of those around here do you?...)

dcbc1234 · 19/06/2023 19:26

It would be great if you are right. Perhaps HR went along with the nonsensical stuff all along just to keep themselves in jobs...as they now have to reverse-ferret which keeps them in jobs.
Alas having recently re-read Helen Joyce's book 'Trans' I think it is going to take a long time for everything to go back to normal. I wish it weren't so.

SmurfetteSalad · 19/06/2023 20:05

Tide's turning. Keep calling this shit out people!

https://twitter.com/tpointuk/status/1670145753669410816?s=48

Hepwo · 19/06/2023 20:27

Knickerbockergrolia · 19/06/2023 17:04

Had an all staff work email today to say EDI data capture was being updated to include more inclusive language and options, so could we (voluntarily) update our profiles. I logged in (to enter something belligerent about my 'gender identity'), only to find it is not asked anywhere. There are new categories for ethnicities and sexual orientation, but conspicuously NOTHING about gender.

Anyone like to hazard a guess as to why? Am I being overly optimistic to think it's because everyone is over this gender identity guff now and we can all go back to normal?!

You could flippantly say that there's no system that has enough fields for all the options.

But really there is no demand for the data.

The system I saw data from recently was categorised into male, female, other, prefer not to say and no answer.

The numbers for anything other than male or female were miniscule, more opted out completely, and I honestly don't see it ever being used as it's just more lines on complicated reports with empty boxes or with "4" in it.

Despite the clamour for the life saving nature of validating identities there's barely no-one wanting their identity validating.

Men already pick female if it makes them feel better and disappear into an aggregate soup.

(Yes I know how you feel about that but that's not what my post is about.)

Breaking "other" down takes me back to my first point, before you even set up the 799 gender categories in a system you need a committee of 400 to squabble over the 799 categories for 6 months with safe spaces available.

Nobody in the systems team can be bothered with all that unless they are a complete evangelical from Canada or California.

And no-one wants headcount data reports broken down into male and female plus 799 mostly empty categories. The reports would add too much to the global power usage stats for a start.

It's reaching it's pointless end.

Cas112 · 19/06/2023 20:29

Ask your work...

Tanith · 19/06/2023 20:45

ArabeIIaScott · 19/06/2023 19:05

Hear that faint scrabbling noise? The sound of a thousand ferrets trying to reverse as quietly as possible.

Thought it was the rats deserting the sinking ship, myself.

pues · 19/06/2023 20:50

Things are starting to feel very different.
Girls at my daughter's school are slowly seeing sense and the attention seekers are disappearing.

pues · 19/06/2023 20:53

Not literally of course but exam pressure is certainly concentrating the mind!

QuickWash · 19/06/2023 21:06

SmurfetteSalad · 19/06/2023 20:05

Tide's turning. Keep calling this shit out people!

https://twitter.com/tpointuk/status/1670145753669410816?s=48

This link somehow led me to the discovery that a certain Dr is back on Twitter. Blimey.

YouJustDoYou · 20/06/2023 18:24

ArabeIIaScott · 19/06/2023 19:05

Hear that faint scrabbling noise? The sound of a thousand ferrets trying to reverse as quietly as possible.

😂

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