Rapist and murderer denied "essence of human dignity"

[Liverpool52]

I absolutely do not agree with the death penalty but how can a rapist and murderer keep a straight face whilst claiming to be denied the essence of human dignity for being denied gender affirming treatment whilst on death row. What about the human dignity of the women he raped and murdered.

Duane Owen executed by Florida state

I’m not sure my idea of ‘medically necessary’ aligns with the people aghast this prisoner didn’t get ‘gender affirming care’.

He can keep a straight face because he believes it is owed him.

Like he (and others like him) believed the woman owed him sex and her life.
It is wearying how common it is.

I agree with the ACLU that this rapist should have been castrated. Feeling very woke :)

Backstreets - I was about to say the same thing.

Ha! Never thought about it like that. Good point!

This.

Like many males he believes male feelings are paramount and women are support humans.

He lives in a country which supports this way of thinking. As do all countries to a greater or lesser extent.

He feels it's awfully bad luck to be one of the males who slips up and gets caught for something that many males probably feel capable of doing in the right/wrong circumstances.

It’s amazing how many rapists suddenly declare they are women. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact they could potentially be transferred over to womens a prison. Nooooo not at all.

Least this bastard is dead now. I wouldn’t spit on him even if he was on fire

But this never happens

Oh dear.
What a pity.
How sad.

This... person... raped a child, murdered her, then raped her dead body again. Chase Strangio & the rest of the ACLU gang are insane if they think this is what people should see them standing up for.

People in organisations like ACLU must never associate with people who aren't in z very specific circle. Surely frequent contact with normal people would let them know how little support there could possibly be for this point of view?

4.5 million views of their disgusting tweet and only 500 likes.

I wonder how long it will be before someone plops onto this thread and tells us it is unkind not to respect the pronouns of a necrophiliac.

Oh dear how sad
Never mind....

Fucking hell I just read the Twitter thread and it is even worse than I imagined.

Not only did he believe it was owed him, the whole cult of nodding dolls are colluding in the notion.

The answers were a relief to read. And one good word came out of it: pogd - prison onset gender dysphoria. Very popular.

Agree with @RavingStone he genuinely felt the victim to be held to account for something all males are capable of doing/thought about doing. He felt let down that the system doesn't understand this.

Glad HE is dead and may he rot in hell

It’s an interesting thought. I wonder how wide each person’s individual ‘chilling effect’ extends.

It would be like knowing someone is in the Gestapo or the KGB. You wouldn’t just not speak to that individual truthfully, you wouldn’t speak truthfully to their family, their friends, colleagues…. Or even the friends, family and colleagues of their friends family and colleagues. The silencing fear would ripple out much further and wider than could possibly be known by them.

Ordinary people know there are “consequences” if our true opinions get back to these kinds of people - losing jobs and livelihood, ritual shaming and humiliation and forced confessions, ostracism and never being able to return to our profession, police action, extortion, threats of violence, even prison.

These people must be constantly met with smiles and what seems to be approval. How could they ever know what anyone truly thinks and believes?

The poor poor trans person who raped a teenager, stabbed her to death and raped her corpse, then raped a 38 year old woman and beat her to death with a hammer, leaving her body to be found by her children when they got up for school on the morning? That's who the ACLU wants us to feel sorry for? That's who's hard done by, for being denied 'gender affirming care'?

When you think The Right Side Of History have hit rock bottom, they always manage to find a lower place, don't they?

"Chase Strangio & the rest of the ACLU gang are insane..."

That pretty much covers it.

I do agree with you on this, but the mind still boggles at HOW they reach the conclusion that this is all a fine and dandy hill to die on. It is such a mystery. Because they must think this before the Brain rot of being surrounded by nodding head dolls sets in?

To be fair, inmates on death row will and routinely do find and use anything and everything they can in order to try to delay or overturn their execution.

I'm a terfy old terf terf but I'm also very much against the death penalty, so I can't say I mind him trying this and anything else he could for prevarication. The more POGD (I LOVE this term!) the more light is shone.

Absolutely. The ACLU has been unfit for purpose for years now.

I find it baffling that the ACLU are framing this as if lack of "gender affirming" treatment in prison is a more crucial issue to tackle than the existence of capital punishment.

Surely this is the wrong way around? Have the staff utterly and completely forgotten the ACLU's purposes? I knew they'd partially forgotten, but I did think they were still anti-death penalty!

Perhaps this is the organisation's way of communicating that its staff thought he should die too.

Using she/her pronouns is abusing the relatives of the murdered woman and child.

The ACLU are deliberately choosing a murdering scumbag over the families of the victims and putting his emotional validation/desire to abuse others as more important than the prevention of further trauma to the surviving family.

The child who found their murdered mother will of course never forget, that trauma will have rippled out across the entire family and generations - how could it not?.

When did perverted, murdering men become the victims? Jesus wept.