The rot at the met goes right to the watchdog

[Hoardasurass]

I have no words for this
Ex-chief of the police watchdog is charged sex offences https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12202111/Ex-chief-police-watchdog-charged-sex-offences-including-rape-young-girl.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

I have no words for how disgusting this is

We've had similar issues in America over the years, and when there's a culture of misogyny within the police higher ups, you can be certain it's also within city government. I mean duh, but what I'm saying is that when guys like this go down, his fellow sex weirdos go down with him bc some enterprise has been discovered by what we'd call here federal authorities. Maybe a mistress was caught in a human trafficking scheme and spilled the contents of her little black book to avoid a big sentence. It would really tickle me, given how rapey and awful the Met is, if this is the beginning of a huge bust necessitating the bringing in of new blood.

No surprise. Shudder. Rotten to the core.

He's denied the allegations and nothing's been proved as yet. I dont think that he should be judged guilty or not til all the evidence has been heard.

Not proven no, but we know the CPS only charges where there's reasonable evidence. We know they hardly bring any rape trials to court at all, and given who he is, they would have had to have been even more sure there was a very good chance of conviction before doing so.

Let's hope the court case proceeds quickly and the whole process doesn't drag on for years for everyone's sake.

https://victimscommissioner.org.uk/news/the-distressing-truth-is-that-if-you-are-raped-in-britain-today-your-chances-of-seeing-justice-are-slim/

It’s awful. My 3 year old had a visit from the police at nursery last week and I was chatting to her about how the police are here to help and for the first time I didn’t know if I should be giving my girls the message of if you lost or don’t feel safe then go to the police. I did say it to them but I felt very uneasy doing it.

Agree with this. Have always supported the Police and promoted the point that they're the good guys. I'm not so sure saying that these days.

I don't know that's always true. Just an example...

William Roache got charged with several counts of sexual assault and rape. One of his accusors had to retract her statement because she realised in court she meant Peter Adamson who played Len Fairclough and not Bill Roache. You'd think it would be pretty basic police work to check she was accusing the right man.

Another of his accusers stated in court that she actually couldn't remember if she'd been assaulted or not.

Everyone is entitled to due process.

How many cases of proven false accusations (that actually get to court) are there as a total percentage of the whole of rape cases? Not those cases where it's not proven, cases where it's clear the police have got it completely wrong?

Yes, he is allowed due process but he was a highly influential man, let's not pretend that it's at all likely that someone just turning up and making accusations with no evidence at all would get very far.

Its utterly revolting. There was a thread recently whereby a poster was furious that people said they wouldnt date someone from the Met. THIS, along with many, many other examples is exactly why people are disgusted with the Met. It just gets worse and worse.

As if they are going to charge the ex chief of the watchdog without a very strong case! You think the woman is lying? FGS.

Utterly disgraceful and shaming for the Met, yet again.

Excuse my ignorance but how does this relate to the Met? I thought the IOPC was independent?

We don't know the facts. You don't know the facts. That's for the court to hear and decide.

He doesnt work for the Met. He's never worked for the Met. He is in no way connected with the Met. He's the director general of the IOPC for England and Wales.

There's a court case to be heard. Innocent until proven guilty.

The link with the Met is that the IOPC investigates complaints against Met officers - like it does across all forces.

Thank you. That's what I thought.

Still a pretty appalling accusation and a big age gap. What on earth was he thinking of?

He was the IOPC of England and Wales. He doesn't have a singular link with the Met. He's never worked for them. Therefore, to say his charge reflects solely on the Met, isn't right.

@Nightlystroll I think we are on the same page! It's the only "link"/link

Anyone has the right to the presumption of innocence. Given his role I would, if investigating, have a LOWER threshold for prosecuting. Nothing should be inferred from a decision to go to court.

Given his role I would, if investigating, have a LOWER threshold for prosecuting

Why? Anyway, rational examination of the situation would lead to the conclusion it is more likely if the threshold is different (I'm certainly not saying it is) it would be higher rather than the same as that normally used and extremely unlikely to be lower, especially when a lower threshold could make it more likely for a genuine abuser to use that to their advantage in escaping legal justice possibly making the reputational effects on the CPS and police of a high-profile accused person far worse.

The thresholds are the thresholds. And innocent until proven guilty. We have processes for a reason.

The alleged offence occurred in the 1980s.